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Wednesday, July 7, 2010
Tuesday, July 6, 2010
A retelling The Wailua Vigil-My Thoughts (From a Participant)
Although this event happened last year, it is as sharp in my memory as yesterday. This summer for some reason I feel the call of hula kahiko, chanting and the mana of the culture strongly. I was remembering this great event yesterday, and so have decided to repost what I wrote very shortly after having experienced it. THis was my personal experience, as one of the participating chanters, cultural practitioners, kumu hula and hula haumana participating in a vigil at Wailua, on the hill just above Hikina A Ka La Heiau. We participated in a very old and acient revival of an all night vigil, and oli, kahiko, olapa, and pule ritial in which every hour on the hour we repeated an entire ritual exactly the same over and over.
This was a momentous event, where the Wailua river suddenly broke its banks in one of the most dramatic flash floods in Kauais history.
AS we were literally feet from the river, during the night another miracle had occured. An absolutely dry night with thunder and lightening the entire night, right above us and over the kai, in perfect timing to the o9li and the pahu and heke If I hadn't been through it myself I never would have beleived it. Deep into the night we all knew something very special had happened.
But the biggest miracle, was the kind of ua nui we may never see again. Rain so thick we coulnt see each other a hand away, and our mouths filling with water as we kept on chanting. IT was absolutely amazing to the onlookers as several cracks of lightening crackled literally feet from us, and then the river opened up. It made many newspaper headlines as well.
WHy were we doing this? To protect the iwi kupuna from being paved over and disturbed by the bike path. I was just there, last week, still protesting this possibility with the heroine Kaiulani Huff, Nani Rodgers, Liko Martin Jimbo Alalem and others. I am reprintg this so none of us forget what we were doing in those two days.
The Wailua Vigil-My Thoughts (From a Participant)
This was a momentous event, where the Wailua river suddenly broke its banks in one of the most dramatic flash floods in Kauais history.
AS we were literally feet from the river, during the night another miracle had occured. An absolutely dry night with thunder and lightening the entire night, right above us and over the kai, in perfect timing to the o9li and the pahu and heke If I hadn't been through it myself I never would have beleived it. Deep into the night we all knew something very special had happened.
But the biggest miracle, was the kind of ua nui we may never see again. Rain so thick we coulnt see each other a hand away, and our mouths filling with water as we kept on chanting. IT was absolutely amazing to the onlookers as several cracks of lightening crackled literally feet from us, and then the river opened up. It made many newspaper headlines as well.
WHy were we doing this? To protect the iwi kupuna from being paved over and disturbed by the bike path. I was just there, last week, still protesting this possibility with the heroine Kaiulani Huff, Nani Rodgers, Liko Martin Jimbo Alalem and others. I am reprintg this so none of us forget what we were doing in those two days.
The Wailua Vigil-My Thoughts (From a Participant)
Monday, July 5, 2010
Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says - CNN.com
Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says - CNN.com
STAND UP TO THIS ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE AND JOIN WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO OPPOSE THE STONING OF THIS WOMAN SHAME AND HEWA
STAND UP TO THIS ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE AND JOIN WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO OPPOSE THE STONING OF THIS WOMAN SHAME AND HEWA
Sunday, July 4, 2010
The Heirs Of Hawaii: The Ruling House is Kauai - Maoliworld
The Heirs Of Hawaii: The Ruling House is Kauai - Maoliworld
This is a blogpost I wrote in answer to some stuff on Maoliworld, that I just joined yesterday.
Feel free to coment. Just dont swear or get stupid. ALoha.
With all of the bickering over who is who and what is what, tearing apart geneologies and screaming about who was hanai here and who was hanai there, one fact remains glaringly clear.
That the lines of succession clearly stand with the Mokupuni o Kauaimanokalanipo. I think everyone can pretty much agree on this fact.
My hope of coming to Maoliworld, was to intelligently discuss how we can all come TOGETHER, and pull together all of the threads that keep unraveling among alot of the different groups and claims.
Yet what happens 24 hours after i sign up for Maoliworld? Without even knowing me someone left a foul hewa haole insulting word on my post.
Its pretty aka'aka, considering I have a pic up of me at a "fake state" protest on Kaua'i. Its pretty obvious I am for Hawaii returning toi the people.
It is this sort of bickering and internal warfare that will absolutely kill any chance for cohesion and unity, and really tear apart the movement. In my opinion, there is a kernal of truth to EVERY SINGLE CLAIM of persons, groups and individual "Royal Persons", of which there are many around.
To me, this just proves the facts that the Hawaiian Alii are alive and well, and that no one is gone, erased, or removed from time. That everything is alive, well and kicking and ready to fight.
For me, I find it very disingenuous to put up information, and then silence those who wish to comment and debate. When individuals claiming to be Mois, wether Wahine or Kane, silence debate, and then say "Oh no, those other guys claims are false, hewa. It is only us that rules, and no one else everyone else is a liar", that is where I have some serious problems.
Am I guilty of doing this? Of course i am. I have pride in my own position. Which usually clashes with what others beleive. But it doesn't mean I am not for sovreignty as much as anyone else! I am. It is just that each is loyal to different lines. Is this any different then what has been around for hundreds of years? No. Is this the way of Polynesia? Yes. Will different lineages and geneologies grumble among themselves who is false claim and who is real? Yes. Ae. Ae. Ae. Ae.
HOWEVER: In the situation that we are currently in, it is my fervent hope, that all sides can sit down and discuss all of this is a rational manner. I beleive that the first thing everyone must agree, is that there is SO MUCH Alii Moi, and Alii Nui lines still left and around in Hawaii Nei, that everyone has a claim, in some part and portion. I beleive this wholeheartedly.
But when I look at everything together, and the geneologies, of which I have been working on now for well more then 10 years now, I realize that to me, it is Kauai that stands out among all others. The reason for this is historical, geneologically.
All Pio lines only came from Kauai. When u look at the Kookalani lists of Cheifs, which is the one I usually look to for its intense authenticity, and of course the Kalakaua and Liliuokalani Dynastic lines, Kaumualii and Kapule lines, and especially Kamakahelei lines, it just seems blatently clear that any way u slice it, the lines from Kauai predominate.
Therefore, with several claimants to the Throne, Princess Abigail, and Prince Quentin, and then of course Prince Kuhios line, to me, I would be happy with either, although my hanai side supports Princess Abigail, that is becasue Kauai seems split in its allegience. Further, the Kaauwai's are alive and well on Kauai, and the ohana is supported of both Abigail and Kuhio, since both bring Kauai to the forefront.
If truth be told, I would be as happy with a lineal descendent of Prince Kuhios rising to the throne as I would be with Princess Abigail, or Prince Quentin. The difference for me, is that I have actually met Princess Abigail, and her brother when he was still alive. I wonder sometimes if some of you have ever met her, or actually ever seen her., or spoken to her They are both very tall, very stately, very so obviously alii. There is something inherent in the manner of all true alii. Prince Kuhio was also a wonderful example of true alii and conducted himself accordingly. I support all of these claims, including the claims of Kuhios line. What i do not support is the insulting personally of any individual alii, wether you agree that they are the hiers or not, insulting words and claims are just not pono and very hewa to me. Although it is true, sometimes the alii themselves were perhaps at times scathing to each other in their rhetoric, to me, the aliis that took the higher roads, and did not engage back in that rhetoric, had the higher and more cheifly status in my assessment.
If we all think for the truth, we all know that to be an alii by koko is only part of the equation. We must also look at the actions of each alii and how they conduct themselves, and what their deportment is like. TO any of you feel that swearing four letter words is the action of a true alii? Why would a true alii stoop so low as to use such foul and profane words? If you want to insult someone in the old way, then use the proper poetic kaona to do so. Please do not stoop to the foulness of the English language. You cheapen yourself and the alii.
Dress nicely, as befits an alii nui. Conduct yourself with dignity and class. Do not engage yourself in screaming matches or pissing contests. Sit down intelligently with each other and calmly discuss everything in a rational manner. DO you think this is the haole way to do things? By sitting down and discussing things in this way you are somehow doing things the haole way? It is not.
In precontact there was a clear system that was in place. Do you honestly think everyone was running around with war clubs bashing each others heads in, and not discussing matters first>? Most warfare was diverted through partnerships with different lines, through councils of cheifs, rational discussions, alliances and decisions, and hoikes and contests that substituted for warfare., including oli, lua, konane, and hula kahiko and riddling contests. Amazingly enough it was not seen as the best option to conduct warfare, because the idea was to transfer loyal people ALIVE. Our King, Kaumualii, and his mother, Cheifess Kamakahelei beleived in peaceful trading to avoid warfare, and certain alliances through partnerships, thus much warfare on Kauai was diverted for many generations. Well, that and Cheifess Kamakahelei's chanting. That worked pretty good too.
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hHat good was a dead person, for beefing up your own lands and people? Think people..And the aliis could always use a bunch of kauwas as well, if they did not want to swear loyalty or fealty to that Cheif or Cheifess. You see, loyalty was a very valuable asset, precontact. If u ask me its a pretty valuable asset right now. This is the actions of a high civilization. I have been attempting for over 20 years to put forth the idea, that this culture was one of the highest and most intelligent civilized culture on the face of this earth. All of this infighting is certainly not helping to advance that idea.
And on the subject of hanai. Oh I am so going to get very walaau about this. Most people today have no idea what true hanai was. I remember learning from Gramma Rachel Mahuiki about this. And anyone who disputes her knowlege, is a strauight up idiot, in my book. If you dont know who she was, then you know verty little about anything.
She 0once told me this moolelo, and I have never forgotten it. I was very upset one day, at my hanai status, because I didn't have koko. She took me aside, and had this to tell me, of which she has told to many people since that time, and I remember her telling it to the whole ohana in the backyard once as well.
The mo'olelo goes like this:
In the day, when there was warfare, and many had been killed, when cheifs and cheifesses went on their tours of the mokupuni, they would enter each district. It would become known that a child was wanted and perhaps would be blessed and hanai'd. TO be hana'id, gave exactly equal status to that person as koko. In fact it was a COMMON practice, if your OWN HIERS were not considered suitable, to name the HANAI your heir!! This is seen time and time again in the chants, geneologies, documents ect. This is a fact. This cannot be denied. Such was the importance and level of being hanai before, by the cheifly classes.
This is how it was done, according to Gramma Rachel.
The alii would come into the district, and all of the people would bring their hokupu. Many children were brought to the alii. The child, if chosen, and selected, was placed on the aliis lap, until it mimi'd. (shi shi, or urinated) on the aliis lap. Then, a great cry was heard, and this child was taken into the household, and hanai'd, and given high status. So all of this bickering over who is who and who is hanai, as you can see in the documents, and the palapala, many hanai were given status sometimes over the eigitimate koko hiers due to ATTITUDE and DEPORTMENT.
According to Gramma Rachel, alii looked for certain signs, and certain attitudes, intelligence and deportment in hanai children. They as aliis were wise, and chose well. Many times children would try to usurp their own parents rule. A hanai was considered to be more loyal to the Chief/cheifess because of the fact that they were elevated by them. Therefore they would defend the cheifs claims, sometimes far better then their own issue.
So, Gramma Rachel concluded by saying that is why, in Haena, the old way is to hema the diaper, and let the children mimi on you. Was this done with my own keiki? absolutely. And it was always a moment for great joy, lots of laughter, and it is always the tradition there. No one gets upset when the children mimi on you. That is yours, you can claim them, have a special bond, hanai. True Hanai has nothing to do with the English version of hanai.
Why do I speak so strongly of Hanai, and this old way> Because that is my situation., I was hanai in the old way, for what Gramma said is the same reason the cheifs gave. Because of loyalty, support and defense of the lines and the ohana. That is what I have done my whole life. As a hanai i am grateful and loyal and defend. I know what it means. It is a heavy and enduring responsibility and never to be taken lightly. I have inherited much and been given much, and have tried, I beleive to honor my hanai status as best as I can with my whole heart and soul. So enough about hanai. I do not want to see any more of this arguing about who the alii hanaid, and how they cannot have claims over legitimate koko. I have explained this to you now, directly from the mouth of Gramma Rachel Illalaole O Kamehameha Mahuiki (her true inoa). DO not dispute my hanai's words. Hewa.
Why do I support Kauais claim to the throne? Well, first of all, Pricess Abigail was supported by my hanai ohana. SO I support Princess Abigail. That is logical, if it happened to you, you would support as well. But there is another reason. My hanai Uncle, Palu Hanohano Pa, the last documented person to leave Kalalau was adamant about the situation between Kamehamehas lines, and Kauai Lines. His grandmother was alive when all this was going on and he got it directly from his own parents, regarding the loyalty of Kauai's people to Kauai's alii. He clearly told me, weeping, in tears one day, that he was not under any circumstances of Kamehamehas lines. That the people of Kauai, here in the valleys of Na Pali and of the North Shore, were all Kaumualiis people, and the children of Manokalanipo. He made me swear, grabbing my hands in a vise grip that I would always defend that. Do you think I would say of course Uncle, and then turn around and betray that? Never. How hewa would that be? Uncle Palu gave me so much of his knowlege, and he expected me to follow his wishes on this to the letter. SO I do, to this day on. SO how can I support anything other then the claims of Kauais lines? I cant!!
On Royalty or being a Monarchist versus a constututional government without a monarchial head, I have a lot to say about this. I am a monarchist, but I also beleive in the Kalakaua constitution, which Queen Liliuokalani perpetuated. I beleive in a monarchial, head, the system of ALiis, and cheifs as frameworked by them, and I also beleive in a House of Nobles, a House of Commons, and in free elections to the house of commons. I beleive in the council of Cheifs/alii as the only body that can proclaim an Alii Moi of ka moku pae aina o Hawaii nei. I beleive in a true country and kingdom that has citizens of all races and nationalities within it as Kingdom Nationals. I beleive in all rightful land claims being restored. I beleive in equality for the citizens of Hawaii nei. These are the things I beleive in.
Is this wrong? Is this hewa? No one will ever convince me that it is.
Please, feel free to comment. I am happy to debate, discuss and learn. But if u leave haole swear words on my comment section, I will remove your comment. If you want to swear and cuss at me, do it in the old poetic way. Or not at all. I will not suffer that kind of pilau stuff here. So please, say what you feel. Aole pilikia.
Aloha
Anne Punohu .
This is a blogpost I wrote in answer to some stuff on Maoliworld, that I just joined yesterday.
Feel free to coment. Just dont swear or get stupid. ALoha.
With all of the bickering over who is who and what is what, tearing apart geneologies and screaming about who was hanai here and who was hanai there, one fact remains glaringly clear.
That the lines of succession clearly stand with the Mokupuni o Kauaimanokalanipo. I think everyone can pretty much agree on this fact.
My hope of coming to Maoliworld, was to intelligently discuss how we can all come TOGETHER, and pull together all of the threads that keep unraveling among alot of the different groups and claims.
Yet what happens 24 hours after i sign up for Maoliworld? Without even knowing me someone left a foul hewa haole insulting word on my post.
Its pretty aka'aka, considering I have a pic up of me at a "fake state" protest on Kaua'i. Its pretty obvious I am for Hawaii returning toi the people.
It is this sort of bickering and internal warfare that will absolutely kill any chance for cohesion and unity, and really tear apart the movement. In my opinion, there is a kernal of truth to EVERY SINGLE CLAIM of persons, groups and individual "Royal Persons", of which there are many around.
To me, this just proves the facts that the Hawaiian Alii are alive and well, and that no one is gone, erased, or removed from time. That everything is alive, well and kicking and ready to fight.
For me, I find it very disingenuous to put up information, and then silence those who wish to comment and debate. When individuals claiming to be Mois, wether Wahine or Kane, silence debate, and then say "Oh no, those other guys claims are false, hewa. It is only us that rules, and no one else everyone else is a liar", that is where I have some serious problems.
Am I guilty of doing this? Of course i am. I have pride in my own position. Which usually clashes with what others beleive. But it doesn't mean I am not for sovreignty as much as anyone else! I am. It is just that each is loyal to different lines. Is this any different then what has been around for hundreds of years? No. Is this the way of Polynesia? Yes. Will different lineages and geneologies grumble among themselves who is false claim and who is real? Yes. Ae. Ae. Ae. Ae.
HOWEVER: In the situation that we are currently in, it is my fervent hope, that all sides can sit down and discuss all of this is a rational manner. I beleive that the first thing everyone must agree, is that there is SO MUCH Alii Moi, and Alii Nui lines still left and around in Hawaii Nei, that everyone has a claim, in some part and portion. I beleive this wholeheartedly.
But when I look at everything together, and the geneologies, of which I have been working on now for well more then 10 years now, I realize that to me, it is Kauai that stands out among all others. The reason for this is historical, geneologically.
All Pio lines only came from Kauai. When u look at the Kookalani lists of Cheifs, which is the one I usually look to for its intense authenticity, and of course the Kalakaua and Liliuokalani Dynastic lines, Kaumualii and Kapule lines, and especially Kamakahelei lines, it just seems blatently clear that any way u slice it, the lines from Kauai predominate.
Therefore, with several claimants to the Throne, Princess Abigail, and Prince Quentin, and then of course Prince Kuhios line, to me, I would be happy with either, although my hanai side supports Princess Abigail, that is becasue Kauai seems split in its allegience. Further, the Kaauwai's are alive and well on Kauai, and the ohana is supported of both Abigail and Kuhio, since both bring Kauai to the forefront.
If truth be told, I would be as happy with a lineal descendent of Prince Kuhios rising to the throne as I would be with Princess Abigail, or Prince Quentin. The difference for me, is that I have actually met Princess Abigail, and her brother when he was still alive. I wonder sometimes if some of you have ever met her, or actually ever seen her., or spoken to her They are both very tall, very stately, very so obviously alii. There is something inherent in the manner of all true alii. Prince Kuhio was also a wonderful example of true alii and conducted himself accordingly. I support all of these claims, including the claims of Kuhios line. What i do not support is the insulting personally of any individual alii, wether you agree that they are the hiers or not, insulting words and claims are just not pono and very hewa to me. Although it is true, sometimes the alii themselves were perhaps at times scathing to each other in their rhetoric, to me, the aliis that took the higher roads, and did not engage back in that rhetoric, had the higher and more cheifly status in my assessment.
If we all think for the truth, we all know that to be an alii by koko is only part of the equation. We must also look at the actions of each alii and how they conduct themselves, and what their deportment is like. TO any of you feel that swearing four letter words is the action of a true alii? Why would a true alii stoop so low as to use such foul and profane words? If you want to insult someone in the old way, then use the proper poetic kaona to do so. Please do not stoop to the foulness of the English language. You cheapen yourself and the alii.
Dress nicely, as befits an alii nui. Conduct yourself with dignity and class. Do not engage yourself in screaming matches or pissing contests. Sit down intelligently with each other and calmly discuss everything in a rational manner. DO you think this is the haole way to do things? By sitting down and discussing things in this way you are somehow doing things the haole way? It is not.
In precontact there was a clear system that was in place. Do you honestly think everyone was running around with war clubs bashing each others heads in, and not discussing matters first>? Most warfare was diverted through partnerships with different lines, through councils of cheifs, rational discussions, alliances and decisions, and hoikes and contests that substituted for warfare., including oli, lua, konane, and hula kahiko and riddling contests. Amazingly enough it was not seen as the best option to conduct warfare, because the idea was to transfer loyal people ALIVE. Our King, Kaumualii, and his mother, Cheifess Kamakahelei beleived in peaceful trading to avoid warfare, and certain alliances through partnerships, thus much warfare on Kauai was diverted for many generations. Well, that and Cheifess Kamakahelei's chanting. That worked pretty good too.
W
hHat good was a dead person, for beefing up your own lands and people? Think people..And the aliis could always use a bunch of kauwas as well, if they did not want to swear loyalty or fealty to that Cheif or Cheifess. You see, loyalty was a very valuable asset, precontact. If u ask me its a pretty valuable asset right now. This is the actions of a high civilization. I have been attempting for over 20 years to put forth the idea, that this culture was one of the highest and most intelligent civilized culture on the face of this earth. All of this infighting is certainly not helping to advance that idea.
And on the subject of hanai. Oh I am so going to get very walaau about this. Most people today have no idea what true hanai was. I remember learning from Gramma Rachel Mahuiki about this. And anyone who disputes her knowlege, is a strauight up idiot, in my book. If you dont know who she was, then you know verty little about anything.
She 0once told me this moolelo, and I have never forgotten it. I was very upset one day, at my hanai status, because I didn't have koko. She took me aside, and had this to tell me, of which she has told to many people since that time, and I remember her telling it to the whole ohana in the backyard once as well.
The mo'olelo goes like this:
In the day, when there was warfare, and many had been killed, when cheifs and cheifesses went on their tours of the mokupuni, they would enter each district. It would become known that a child was wanted and perhaps would be blessed and hanai'd. TO be hana'id, gave exactly equal status to that person as koko. In fact it was a COMMON practice, if your OWN HIERS were not considered suitable, to name the HANAI your heir!! This is seen time and time again in the chants, geneologies, documents ect. This is a fact. This cannot be denied. Such was the importance and level of being hanai before, by the cheifly classes.
This is how it was done, according to Gramma Rachel.
The alii would come into the district, and all of the people would bring their hokupu. Many children were brought to the alii. The child, if chosen, and selected, was placed on the aliis lap, until it mimi'd. (shi shi, or urinated) on the aliis lap. Then, a great cry was heard, and this child was taken into the household, and hanai'd, and given high status. So all of this bickering over who is who and who is hanai, as you can see in the documents, and the palapala, many hanai were given status sometimes over the eigitimate koko hiers due to ATTITUDE and DEPORTMENT.
According to Gramma Rachel, alii looked for certain signs, and certain attitudes, intelligence and deportment in hanai children. They as aliis were wise, and chose well. Many times children would try to usurp their own parents rule. A hanai was considered to be more loyal to the Chief/cheifess because of the fact that they were elevated by them. Therefore they would defend the cheifs claims, sometimes far better then their own issue.
So, Gramma Rachel concluded by saying that is why, in Haena, the old way is to hema the diaper, and let the children mimi on you. Was this done with my own keiki? absolutely. And it was always a moment for great joy, lots of laughter, and it is always the tradition there. No one gets upset when the children mimi on you. That is yours, you can claim them, have a special bond, hanai. True Hanai has nothing to do with the English version of hanai.
Why do I speak so strongly of Hanai, and this old way> Because that is my situation., I was hanai in the old way, for what Gramma said is the same reason the cheifs gave. Because of loyalty, support and defense of the lines and the ohana. That is what I have done my whole life. As a hanai i am grateful and loyal and defend. I know what it means. It is a heavy and enduring responsibility and never to be taken lightly. I have inherited much and been given much, and have tried, I beleive to honor my hanai status as best as I can with my whole heart and soul. So enough about hanai. I do not want to see any more of this arguing about who the alii hanaid, and how they cannot have claims over legitimate koko. I have explained this to you now, directly from the mouth of Gramma Rachel Illalaole O Kamehameha Mahuiki (her true inoa). DO not dispute my hanai's words. Hewa.
Why do I support Kauais claim to the throne? Well, first of all, Pricess Abigail was supported by my hanai ohana. SO I support Princess Abigail. That is logical, if it happened to you, you would support as well. But there is another reason. My hanai Uncle, Palu Hanohano Pa, the last documented person to leave Kalalau was adamant about the situation between Kamehamehas lines, and Kauai Lines. His grandmother was alive when all this was going on and he got it directly from his own parents, regarding the loyalty of Kauai's people to Kauai's alii. He clearly told me, weeping, in tears one day, that he was not under any circumstances of Kamehamehas lines. That the people of Kauai, here in the valleys of Na Pali and of the North Shore, were all Kaumualiis people, and the children of Manokalanipo. He made me swear, grabbing my hands in a vise grip that I would always defend that. Do you think I would say of course Uncle, and then turn around and betray that? Never. How hewa would that be? Uncle Palu gave me so much of his knowlege, and he expected me to follow his wishes on this to the letter. SO I do, to this day on. SO how can I support anything other then the claims of Kauais lines? I cant!!
On Royalty or being a Monarchist versus a constututional government without a monarchial head, I have a lot to say about this. I am a monarchist, but I also beleive in the Kalakaua constitution, which Queen Liliuokalani perpetuated. I beleive in a monarchial, head, the system of ALiis, and cheifs as frameworked by them, and I also beleive in a House of Nobles, a House of Commons, and in free elections to the house of commons. I beleive in the council of Cheifs/alii as the only body that can proclaim an Alii Moi of ka moku pae aina o Hawaii nei. I beleive in a true country and kingdom that has citizens of all races and nationalities within it as Kingdom Nationals. I beleive in all rightful land claims being restored. I beleive in equality for the citizens of Hawaii nei. These are the things I beleive in.
Is this wrong? Is this hewa? No one will ever convince me that it is.
Please, feel free to comment. I am happy to debate, discuss and learn. But if u leave haole swear words on my comment section, I will remove your comment. If you want to swear and cuss at me, do it in the old poetic way. Or not at all. I will not suffer that kind of pilau stuff here. So please, say what you feel. Aole pilikia.
Aloha
Anne Punohu .
Friday, July 2, 2010
HEWA Waimanalo homeless await rumored sweep - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
SO Much for the "Homeless are all mainland good for nothings argument". How many times can I say this ad nauseum? How long can I keep saying shame, and hewa!! When will anyone listen?!?
So, all of you know how extensively I have been trying to educate people on the fact that the state has plans to EVICT LAW ABIDING HOUSING RESIDENTS, to put in the homeless there are now, to just replace these homeless with others who have done NOTHING TO DESERVE IT!!
The HAWAIIANS ALL DESERVE A PEICE OF LAND AND A HOUSE. Period. End of conversation. FOr everyone else, there needs to be LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING BUILD IMMEDIATELY!!
The Red Cross should step in. Guess why they can't? The REd Cross can only come in if government officials ask them too.
This entire state should be declared a state of disaster. This needs to end. The people have had it. This is the most inhumane thing I have ever seen. It is beyond comprehension!! I can't even type anymore. I am just too disgusted.
Waimanalo homeless await rumored sweep - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
So, all of you know how extensively I have been trying to educate people on the fact that the state has plans to EVICT LAW ABIDING HOUSING RESIDENTS, to put in the homeless there are now, to just replace these homeless with others who have done NOTHING TO DESERVE IT!!
The HAWAIIANS ALL DESERVE A PEICE OF LAND AND A HOUSE. Period. End of conversation. FOr everyone else, there needs to be LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING BUILD IMMEDIATELY!!
The Red Cross should step in. Guess why they can't? The REd Cross can only come in if government officials ask them too.
This entire state should be declared a state of disaster. This needs to end. The people have had it. This is the most inhumane thing I have ever seen. It is beyond comprehension!! I can't even type anymore. I am just too disgusted.
Waimanalo homeless await rumored sweep - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
Web site for public comment on UN Declaration | Indian Country Today | Content
Web site for public comment on UN Declaration | Indian Country Today | Content
http://www.state.gov/s/tribalconsultation/declaration/index.htm THIS IS THE RIGHT LINK THE ONE IN THE ARTICLE IS WRONG!!
This is the official link, and the article appearing in Indian country today. I suggest everyone get their fingers cracked and start slapping the keys and get in your comments!
This is about renewing the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
There is a comment period for everyone. The link ins in the article. I did it, and I challenge the rest of you do do so as well!
sincerely,
Anne Punohu
Me kealoha pumehana
http://www.state.gov/s/tribalconsultation/declaration/index.htm THIS IS THE RIGHT LINK THE ONE IN THE ARTICLE IS WRONG!!
This is the official link, and the article appearing in Indian country today. I suggest everyone get their fingers cracked and start slapping the keys and get in your comments!
This is about renewing the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
There is a comment period for everyone. The link ins in the article. I did it, and I challenge the rest of you do do so as well!
sincerely,
Anne Punohu
Me kealoha pumehana
Houselss, Homeless, Potato, Potah-to-Conference reeks of rotten eggs
Mayor blasted over homeless - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
You clearly have got to love this article, and a lot of the responses to it. If the ridiculous could be any more sublime.
So, I f you haven't guessed yet, as I write on this topic and advocate for fair and equitable housing ad nauseum and no one really listens to me, I will of course be repeating myself.
I have recently met some people, who are responsible hard working people. One is a mom with three kids. The other is a professional woman. Both have degrees. Both are articulate, intelligent, have no vices, such as drinking, drugs, or questionable behavior, and no mental illnesses. They are perfectly deserving of a decent job and decent housing.
However, neither can find that. They are houseless not homeless. They are part of the much larger numbers of people that do not have a tent parked at the beach. They stay with friends, or live in other peoples back yards, wherever they can go. The word has gone out about a 500 dollar dine for sleeping oin your car, and the rousting of people from beaches. People are clearly terrified. No one wants to step forward. People do not even tell other people that they are actually homeless.
Many poeple on o0ur island, get up get dressed, get their kids off to school, go to work, pick up their kids, and then its a struggle to get through the night. It is more expensive to be on the street. You cant always cook for yourself, you use more gas in your car, and getting a hot shower can also be a problem.
(f you are working, shelter hours here on Kauai are a nightmare. You have to check in by 4 pm. Many cant go there, because of the geographical location of the shelter, being in Lihue. The gas money alone, if you are trying to save up for a rental is hard if you are working in Kapaa, the North Shore, or the South Side. The shelter here is very good. However we need more very low income housing. And quick.
On Oahu, its an epidemic proportions. I know many families there that are homeless. I guess on Oahu there must be an influx of the severely mentally ill, and druggies and others, but i also know there are a significant number of houseless, and families.
The problem is there is no permanent housing here that they can afford. The solution, accodording to some law makers, is to push out existing families out of public housing that have been living their in their opinion for too long, and have extended family members living with them.
This is their solution. Kick out one group of people, who have been following the rules and paying their rents for years, and make them homeless, so that these other homeless can get into housing, and off the street.
WOW. Now THERE is an intelligent solution!~! NOT!!
That solution woujld also cause a flurry of lawsuits. Forget flurry. Try avalanche Can anyone say the words "unconstitutional?" If anyone else had been renting in the private sector, and been a longstanding teneat, would we say to them, "Hey you have been paying your rent and following the rules here long enough!. Its time to get on with your life and get another rental you lazy worthless bum!". Would we say that? Nope.
However, that is exactly what some state legislators are planning come January. Some of them think, rather insanely, that public housing residents are somehow now a worse scurge against hum,anity than the homeless they often treat like wild, untamed animals. Now its the public housing residents that are the terrible, lazy bums. Even though most families are law abiding, pay their rents and follow the rules. What sort of a farce of a government says "Hey lets kick out the public housing residents, so we can stuff these guys in there and put those guys out on the street."
A lot of public housing residents work, and have children. If you evict public housing residents, arbitrarily, after deciding how many years is "too long" to live in public housing, which is by the way labeled as "permanent housing", and NOT as a "temporary housing, or shelter", then you are essentially putting a lot of working class and the working poor on the beaches. Which they are not allowed to stay at. Which will put them back in a homeless shelter. So they can wait to get back into public housing.
Yeah thats a really good solution. makes a hell of a lot of sense. NOT.
The only solution, is to do a few things:
1. Residency policy for social services.
2, Immediately construct more low and extremely low housing facilities.
3. Fix up the units that are empty all over public housing, and get them occupied.
4. Rent control., and new laws to cap what people can charge for rental units in this state, based on 30 percent income.
5. NEWw laws that state that if you re coming here to do business and hire employees, then you m,ust put into a worker housing fund to provide low uiincoime and extreme low income housing in this state. (Oh people will scream about that one!) I don't care.
If I was in government, these are the steps I would take.
You clearly have got to love this article, and a lot of the responses to it. If the ridiculous could be any more sublime.
So, I f you haven't guessed yet, as I write on this topic and advocate for fair and equitable housing ad nauseum and no one really listens to me, I will of course be repeating myself.
I have recently met some people, who are responsible hard working people. One is a mom with three kids. The other is a professional woman. Both have degrees. Both are articulate, intelligent, have no vices, such as drinking, drugs, or questionable behavior, and no mental illnesses. They are perfectly deserving of a decent job and decent housing.
However, neither can find that. They are houseless not homeless. They are part of the much larger numbers of people that do not have a tent parked at the beach. They stay with friends, or live in other peoples back yards, wherever they can go. The word has gone out about a 500 dollar dine for sleeping oin your car, and the rousting of people from beaches. People are clearly terrified. No one wants to step forward. People do not even tell other people that they are actually homeless.
Many poeple on o0ur island, get up get dressed, get their kids off to school, go to work, pick up their kids, and then its a struggle to get through the night. It is more expensive to be on the street. You cant always cook for yourself, you use more gas in your car, and getting a hot shower can also be a problem.
(f you are working, shelter hours here on Kauai are a nightmare. You have to check in by 4 pm. Many cant go there, because of the geographical location of the shelter, being in Lihue. The gas money alone, if you are trying to save up for a rental is hard if you are working in Kapaa, the North Shore, or the South Side. The shelter here is very good. However we need more very low income housing. And quick.
On Oahu, its an epidemic proportions. I know many families there that are homeless. I guess on Oahu there must be an influx of the severely mentally ill, and druggies and others, but i also know there are a significant number of houseless, and families.
The problem is there is no permanent housing here that they can afford. The solution, accodording to some law makers, is to push out existing families out of public housing that have been living their in their opinion for too long, and have extended family members living with them.
This is their solution. Kick out one group of people, who have been following the rules and paying their rents for years, and make them homeless, so that these other homeless can get into housing, and off the street.
WOW. Now THERE is an intelligent solution!~! NOT!!
That solution woujld also cause a flurry of lawsuits. Forget flurry. Try avalanche Can anyone say the words "unconstitutional?" If anyone else had been renting in the private sector, and been a longstanding teneat, would we say to them, "Hey you have been paying your rent and following the rules here long enough!. Its time to get on with your life and get another rental you lazy worthless bum!". Would we say that? Nope.
However, that is exactly what some state legislators are planning come January. Some of them think, rather insanely, that public housing residents are somehow now a worse scurge against hum,anity than the homeless they often treat like wild, untamed animals. Now its the public housing residents that are the terrible, lazy bums. Even though most families are law abiding, pay their rents and follow the rules. What sort of a farce of a government says "Hey lets kick out the public housing residents, so we can stuff these guys in there and put those guys out on the street."
A lot of public housing residents work, and have children. If you evict public housing residents, arbitrarily, after deciding how many years is "too long" to live in public housing, which is by the way labeled as "permanent housing", and NOT as a "temporary housing, or shelter", then you are essentially putting a lot of working class and the working poor on the beaches. Which they are not allowed to stay at. Which will put them back in a homeless shelter. So they can wait to get back into public housing.
Yeah thats a really good solution. makes a hell of a lot of sense. NOT.
The only solution, is to do a few things:
1. Residency policy for social services.
2, Immediately construct more low and extremely low housing facilities.
3. Fix up the units that are empty all over public housing, and get them occupied.
4. Rent control., and new laws to cap what people can charge for rental units in this state, based on 30 percent income.
5. NEWw laws that state that if you re coming here to do business and hire employees, then you m,ust put into a worker housing fund to provide low uiincoime and extreme low income housing in this state. (Oh people will scream about that one!) I don't care.
If I was in government, these are the steps I would take.
Sunday, June 27, 2010
Kingdom of Atooi: A New Synopsis, and a new name, Kamawailualanimoku
After my first investigastive report and thesis, it came into my notice and understanding and rememberance of a certain clause and activity that was done historicly not only on this island but others, to proclaim and create an Alii Moi when the person actually had no geneological claim to it
Now as you know I couldnt claim to my satisfaction that AIpoalani had any legitimate geneological claims to becoming the Kauai Moi. However, there is another way he could actually be claimed legitimately in my eyes as the Alii Moi.
Here they are:
Restore one of the Pio lines, such as Mano Ka Lani Po, and return the name of Kauai to Kauai Mano Ka Lani Po, as this was its name for hundreds of years, and is backed up by histroric, chants, moolelo, and documentation. and get rid of the whole "Atiooi" inoa, and any other derivitives they have been batting around. That would really help to lift a large and derisive cloud of illegitamancy the "Kingdom" has been getting, even from me.
2. Restore Kauais sacred name, which is NOT Atooi, but Kamawailualanimoku .
This name is supported by many chants, kahiko, moolelo and documentation. It is even in the Kumulipo.
4. Legitimately call together the rest of the living lines of Alii NUI, MO'I, and PIO lines, ect. I have listed them all in a former posting
This will take, time and research, and locating many people. However, to really solidify and make Aipoalani someone that EVERYONE can support, it MUST be done according to PROTOCOL.
You need to call together everyone, and get their consensus and agreement that YOU, Dayne Aipoalani, will by right of "conquest" and "defeat" claim Kauai as yours, and ask all to swear loyalty to YOU. If all agree, essentially it becomes a "bloodless Coup."
Why do I beleive this is the way to go? Because it was something your claimed ancestor did, as well as Kauais legitimate Moi, Kaumualii, diplomacy, and right of conquest combined. After all, it is not practicle to actually have a battle and a war here, but that is how Kamehameha the First elevated himself from a minor wohi cheif, along with the help of English cannon, guns and ships to conquer other islands. But this is a very different situation.
If you can suceed in convincing all the other cheifly lineages here, with living legitimate heirs, that YOU are the best konohiki for the job, and everyone agrees by consensus, that you by sheer force of will, personality and perseverance deserve the right to rule Kauai as Kauais Mo'i, then I can see absolutely no impediment to you doing so.
5.Create an Islandwide Constitution. This must be agreed upon by all of the delegates, hereditary family alii lines and heirs, that will elect you as Kauai Moi, and all agreed upon tenents, including land divisions. It is here, where your superior skills of geneology must be employed fairly, while all are before you, to decide who will be the konohilis, Alii, ect. I suggrdt that you begin to employ the hghly trained and knowlegeable geneologists wherever you can find them they are numerous and many. You must also call to your side the last living Kupunas, historians, and archivists. Many documents must be perused, to decide who will attend. You will have many petitions before you, from many poeple clamoring for the right to attend and be a part of this, since many hundreds have claim to the alii class here.You must put forth your list, and Your constitution. Then all must vote on it.
6. Ratify and implement the New Constitution. After the constitution has been ratified (agreed to), then you must implement it, by designating the different Aliis, and konohikis for each specific areas. They each must be an excellent choice, and be good caregivers of all the poeple. This is the old and accepted way. Your choices must be wise. If you choose wrongly, it will reflect upon You. Remember, that all couldbne deposed by the poeple. This was the old way. You do not want to be a tyrant, and damage your people, you want to be a kind, and benevolent ruler.
7. Land Aquisition. After the Aliis and the Konohikis are named, and in place, each one will call together the people. Land claims then can begin islandwide. IN each konohiki district, all claims will be taken to the ALiis, who will then meet with you, the ALii Moi. It is up to You, then to take these claims, and work through the legal details, with the court attorneys for returning these lands to each alii, and Konohiki who will then redistribute the lands to the people. You must actually make sure they do this, and do not cheat the poeple, or keep the land for themselves, or are fair and equtable in their distribution of the lands. You must allow a Land Court to be put forth to deal with any claimants, so that any greivances can be brought before your courts. You must also establish a court system as well, including naming who will sit in on these cases, and decide them, and keep the laws of the land, which you will be creating within the new constitution. The laws must be fair. Remember, all who live under your rule must be cared for. This includes non Hawaiians, as well as those with Hawaiian blood. The great Queen Liliuokalani had subjects of all races and nationalities. So will you.
8. Commerce, Indistry, Health, Safety, Welfare, and Education. You must now begin the task of overseeing all of the cabinents and tenents of governments. Each appointment you make must be done very carefully. Remember you do not wish to impose more suffering on the poeple. They have already been though so much. You must now begin to build up the economy, infrastructure, secure loands, and raise capitol to finance all public institutions, and form an economic infrastructure. People must be housed, fed, cared for, and their educational and medical needs provided for. Their must be road maintenence, police, fire, rescue, and all other manner of departments created. You will need money for staff, and you will more then likely need to float bonds to accomplish this.
9. The new (old) Kingdiom of Kauai Manokalanipo, or Kamawailualanimoku whichever one is agreed upon, by a consensus of the cheifly lines, which have electedf islandwide to accept you as the ALii Moi of Kauai decides upon, You now must establish a language, and a monetary base for your currency. This must be backed up by some sort of an ecomony which may take some time to establish. You will also need to pay off any bonds floated to you, or any international loans you may have been able to seure, to keep the social safety net alive for the thousands of poeple who will still need to rely on services for them. This was something that all of the ALii Mois of the Kingdom of Hawaii Nei have had to do. It proved very difficult, and required negotiating a lot of treaties, the problem came when floating bonds and loans, were paid off with land, because liquid assets were scarce for the Hawaiian Monarchy. But I am sure that for you, this will not be a problem.
a)You will, of course, immediately restore the Kingdoms language to the KAUAI DIALECT, and you, yourself, will begin to relearn the proper dialect of the ALiis. You will ensure that Hawaiian, Olelo, is the language of Kauai, Manokalanipo, or Kamawaibuilanimoku the primary language, and if you choose to then, English can also be a secondary language. You must of course, in this case, make sure that all government documents, public documents, and all commuinications be in these dialects, and then traslated into English, much as the government now translates its documents into many languages. The people must also be taught in the schools Hawaiian(Olelo) first, then English of course, or Spanish, or whatever other language you feel should be the secondary language. After all you are the Moi, its your call. You may choose to have the secondary language, be another country with which you have strong diplomatic ties, with or economic ties with. It is entirely up to you. That is why in French Polynesia, or Tahiti, the language is French and not English, because of this very thing. Well, that and the fact that they were colonized by the French as well. English becasme Hawaiis secondary language becasue of course the diplomatic ties, were with England. It was not the American language but the English language which was predominate along with the Olelo. You may again establish Olelo language newspapers across Kauai. We could have French as our secondary language, or even Spanish, or Maori, or Tahitian. Its up to you. You realize that true native speakers will be required to restore the original language. There are however few speakers of the ALii class language. Beleive it or not, I beleive Mr. Robinson is actually fluent in this level of Olelo. I am sure he would be more then willing and gloriousely happy and proud to help you, and all of the other ALiis restore the correct vernacular to the Alii class. remember, the commoners language and that of the ALii class were vastly different.
b)You will see that the currency will need to be backed by SOMETHING. Unfortunately for this situation, the only real asset you will have is the land. That is why land aquisition must occur BEFORE the coinage of a currency. You must have something to BACK UP the currency with. But thats not a problem, since you will be reinstituting intensive agriculture on Kauai, to make the land produce. Virtually everyone will be able to contribute, since all will have their ili lands returned to them, each family will be alotted its due, and all can keep the ecomomy afloat. Then, the currency can be backed by a certain economic flow. Tourism, must also be regulated, and that will also be a source of income, as well as any other venture you and the Moi want to establish to help to boost the economy.
10. With you now seated firmly and duly agreed upon to all of the cheifly lines on Kauai, you have restored the correct names to Kauai nei, you have brought the cheifs together, had yourself elected and proclaimed as alii nui, you have gotten the loans and bonds that you needed and returned the land to the poeple, gotten the economy rolling, kept essential services going, restored the language,and have appointed to your cabinet learned, educated, and knowlegeable poeple who have the ability to help to support the ALii and the Konohikis to keep their districts safe, clean, and well ordered, you have done what I beleive in your heart of hearts wanted to. Been proclaimed the King of ALl Kauai, and I suppose you would like to include Niihau in that, although I am not sure how Mr. Roibinson will feel about that, but I am sure through your fine and excelent diplomatic skills it can be accomplished.
I wish you godspeed, and hope to see you take this course of action that I have suiggested. I beleive that you truly want to be the King, the ALii Moi. I believe that you would rather follow the well meant, and well thought out advice I am giving you. Many of Hawaiis Kings had advisors. After all, Kamehameha the First had 13 of them. They all told him to go and conquer Kauai, and take Kaumualii prosoner, or kill him. He listened to them,something of not taking a more better course of action. However, his son did listen to those same advisors. Of course, his ship was wrecked on his reckless attempt to conquer Kauai, based on the advice of his advisors, spurring him on that he was the rightful King of Kauai. Luckily foe him, Kam II met a good, benevelent, and diplomatic King of Kauai by the name of Kaumualii, who cared for him, fed him, outfitted him and sent him right back to Oahu. Such is the famousness of the Kings of Kauai. Yes, advisors can be many, but the advice must be wieghed form all angles. Because a King must have advisors to surround him. And as every wise King knows. Not all should agree with him on everything. There needs to always be a balance.
Now as you know I couldnt claim to my satisfaction that AIpoalani had any legitimate geneological claims to becoming the Kauai Moi. However, there is another way he could actually be claimed legitimately in my eyes as the Alii Moi.
Here they are:
Restore one of the Pio lines, such as Mano Ka Lani Po, and return the name of Kauai to Kauai Mano Ka Lani Po, as this was its name for hundreds of years, and is backed up by histroric, chants, moolelo, and documentation. and get rid of the whole "Atiooi" inoa, and any other derivitives they have been batting around. That would really help to lift a large and derisive cloud of illegitamancy the "Kingdom" has been getting, even from me.
2. Restore Kauais sacred name, which is NOT Atooi, but Kamawailualanimoku .
This name is supported by many chants, kahiko, moolelo and documentation. It is even in the Kumulipo.
4. Legitimately call together the rest of the living lines of Alii NUI, MO'I, and PIO lines, ect. I have listed them all in a former posting
This will take, time and research, and locating many people. However, to really solidify and make Aipoalani someone that EVERYONE can support, it MUST be done according to PROTOCOL.
You need to call together everyone, and get their consensus and agreement that YOU, Dayne Aipoalani, will by right of "conquest" and "defeat" claim Kauai as yours, and ask all to swear loyalty to YOU. If all agree, essentially it becomes a "bloodless Coup."
Why do I beleive this is the way to go? Because it was something your claimed ancestor did, as well as Kauais legitimate Moi, Kaumualii, diplomacy, and right of conquest combined. After all, it is not practicle to actually have a battle and a war here, but that is how Kamehameha the First elevated himself from a minor wohi cheif, along with the help of English cannon, guns and ships to conquer other islands. But this is a very different situation.
If you can suceed in convincing all the other cheifly lineages here, with living legitimate heirs, that YOU are the best konohiki for the job, and everyone agrees by consensus, that you by sheer force of will, personality and perseverance deserve the right to rule Kauai as Kauais Mo'i, then I can see absolutely no impediment to you doing so.
5.Create an Islandwide Constitution. This must be agreed upon by all of the delegates, hereditary family alii lines and heirs, that will elect you as Kauai Moi, and all agreed upon tenents, including land divisions. It is here, where your superior skills of geneology must be employed fairly, while all are before you, to decide who will be the konohilis, Alii, ect. I suggrdt that you begin to employ the hghly trained and knowlegeable geneologists wherever you can find them they are numerous and many. You must also call to your side the last living Kupunas, historians, and archivists. Many documents must be perused, to decide who will attend. You will have many petitions before you, from many poeple clamoring for the right to attend and be a part of this, since many hundreds have claim to the alii class here.You must put forth your list, and Your constitution. Then all must vote on it.
6. Ratify and implement the New Constitution. After the constitution has been ratified (agreed to), then you must implement it, by designating the different Aliis, and konohikis for each specific areas. They each must be an excellent choice, and be good caregivers of all the poeple. This is the old and accepted way. Your choices must be wise. If you choose wrongly, it will reflect upon You. Remember, that all couldbne deposed by the poeple. This was the old way. You do not want to be a tyrant, and damage your people, you want to be a kind, and benevolent ruler.
7. Land Aquisition. After the Aliis and the Konohikis are named, and in place, each one will call together the people. Land claims then can begin islandwide. IN each konohiki district, all claims will be taken to the ALiis, who will then meet with you, the ALii Moi. It is up to You, then to take these claims, and work through the legal details, with the court attorneys for returning these lands to each alii, and Konohiki who will then redistribute the lands to the people. You must actually make sure they do this, and do not cheat the poeple, or keep the land for themselves, or are fair and equtable in their distribution of the lands. You must allow a Land Court to be put forth to deal with any claimants, so that any greivances can be brought before your courts. You must also establish a court system as well, including naming who will sit in on these cases, and decide them, and keep the laws of the land, which you will be creating within the new constitution. The laws must be fair. Remember, all who live under your rule must be cared for. This includes non Hawaiians, as well as those with Hawaiian blood. The great Queen Liliuokalani had subjects of all races and nationalities. So will you.
8. Commerce, Indistry, Health, Safety, Welfare, and Education. You must now begin the task of overseeing all of the cabinents and tenents of governments. Each appointment you make must be done very carefully. Remember you do not wish to impose more suffering on the poeple. They have already been though so much. You must now begin to build up the economy, infrastructure, secure loands, and raise capitol to finance all public institutions, and form an economic infrastructure. People must be housed, fed, cared for, and their educational and medical needs provided for. Their must be road maintenence, police, fire, rescue, and all other manner of departments created. You will need money for staff, and you will more then likely need to float bonds to accomplish this.
9. The new (old) Kingdiom of Kauai Manokalanipo, or Kamawailualanimoku whichever one is agreed upon, by a consensus of the cheifly lines, which have electedf islandwide to accept you as the ALii Moi of Kauai decides upon, You now must establish a language, and a monetary base for your currency. This must be backed up by some sort of an ecomony which may take some time to establish. You will also need to pay off any bonds floated to you, or any international loans you may have been able to seure, to keep the social safety net alive for the thousands of poeple who will still need to rely on services for them. This was something that all of the ALii Mois of the Kingdom of Hawaii Nei have had to do. It proved very difficult, and required negotiating a lot of treaties, the problem came when floating bonds and loans, were paid off with land, because liquid assets were scarce for the Hawaiian Monarchy. But I am sure that for you, this will not be a problem.
a)You will, of course, immediately restore the Kingdoms language to the KAUAI DIALECT, and you, yourself, will begin to relearn the proper dialect of the ALiis. You will ensure that Hawaiian, Olelo, is the language of Kauai, Manokalanipo, or Kamawaibuilanimoku the primary language, and if you choose to then, English can also be a secondary language. You must of course, in this case, make sure that all government documents, public documents, and all commuinications be in these dialects, and then traslated into English, much as the government now translates its documents into many languages. The people must also be taught in the schools Hawaiian(Olelo) first, then English of course, or Spanish, or whatever other language you feel should be the secondary language. After all you are the Moi, its your call. You may choose to have the secondary language, be another country with which you have strong diplomatic ties, with or economic ties with. It is entirely up to you. That is why in French Polynesia, or Tahiti, the language is French and not English, because of this very thing. Well, that and the fact that they were colonized by the French as well. English becasme Hawaiis secondary language becasue of course the diplomatic ties, were with England. It was not the American language but the English language which was predominate along with the Olelo. You may again establish Olelo language newspapers across Kauai. We could have French as our secondary language, or even Spanish, or Maori, or Tahitian. Its up to you. You realize that true native speakers will be required to restore the original language. There are however few speakers of the ALii class language. Beleive it or not, I beleive Mr. Robinson is actually fluent in this level of Olelo. I am sure he would be more then willing and gloriousely happy and proud to help you, and all of the other ALiis restore the correct vernacular to the Alii class. remember, the commoners language and that of the ALii class were vastly different.
b)You will see that the currency will need to be backed by SOMETHING. Unfortunately for this situation, the only real asset you will have is the land. That is why land aquisition must occur BEFORE the coinage of a currency. You must have something to BACK UP the currency with. But thats not a problem, since you will be reinstituting intensive agriculture on Kauai, to make the land produce. Virtually everyone will be able to contribute, since all will have their ili lands returned to them, each family will be alotted its due, and all can keep the ecomomy afloat. Then, the currency can be backed by a certain economic flow. Tourism, must also be regulated, and that will also be a source of income, as well as any other venture you and the Moi want to establish to help to boost the economy.
10. With you now seated firmly and duly agreed upon to all of the cheifly lines on Kauai, you have restored the correct names to Kauai nei, you have brought the cheifs together, had yourself elected and proclaimed as alii nui, you have gotten the loans and bonds that you needed and returned the land to the poeple, gotten the economy rolling, kept essential services going, restored the language,and have appointed to your cabinet learned, educated, and knowlegeable poeple who have the ability to help to support the ALii and the Konohikis to keep their districts safe, clean, and well ordered, you have done what I beleive in your heart of hearts wanted to. Been proclaimed the King of ALl Kauai, and I suppose you would like to include Niihau in that, although I am not sure how Mr. Roibinson will feel about that, but I am sure through your fine and excelent diplomatic skills it can be accomplished.
I wish you godspeed, and hope to see you take this course of action that I have suiggested. I beleive that you truly want to be the King, the ALii Moi. I believe that you would rather follow the well meant, and well thought out advice I am giving you. Many of Hawaiis Kings had advisors. After all, Kamehameha the First had 13 of them. They all told him to go and conquer Kauai, and take Kaumualii prosoner, or kill him. He listened to them,something of not taking a more better course of action. However, his son did listen to those same advisors. Of course, his ship was wrecked on his reckless attempt to conquer Kauai, based on the advice of his advisors, spurring him on that he was the rightful King of Kauai. Luckily foe him, Kam II met a good, benevelent, and diplomatic King of Kauai by the name of Kaumualii, who cared for him, fed him, outfitted him and sent him right back to Oahu. Such is the famousness of the Kings of Kauai. Yes, advisors can be many, but the advice must be wieghed form all angles. Because a King must have advisors to surround him. And as every wise King knows. Not all should agree with him on everything. There needs to always be a balance.
Saturday, June 26, 2010
Insights on PBS Hawaii - Neighbor Island Mayors - June 24, 2010
Insights on PBS Hawaii - Neighbor Island Mayors - June 24, 2010
This is the link to the PBS hosted local airing of the three outer island mayors.
this is a MUST SEE!!
This is the link to the PBS hosted local airing of the three outer island mayors.
this is a MUST SEE!!
Friday, June 25, 2010
Kaua'is TVR : Ag vs Vacation Rental "supplement". No Excuse for not being able to produce off the land.
Give me one acre of land, I could do a LOT of agriculture on it.
But then, ag lands do not go to people like me, who can actually farm, know what to plant and where and how to ammend the soil and make things grow.
It goes to rich greedy fake so called "farmers", who come here, don't know what the heck they are doing, fail, and then cry and moan that they HAVE to have a vacation rental, or they can not possibly make it!!
What a ridiculous, unfair farce.
The worst thing is when the council whines they don't know what agriculture is and they are trying to figure out how to define it. That's like saying they don't know how to eat, or walk, or stand upright, and they have to define it.
It reminds me of the ridiculous debates a few years ago about what constitutes an "environmentalist", regarding the seat on the planning commission that states there must be a representative from enviromental interests on the planning commission.
Its the same thing. Some people said, well I know which bin to put cardboard in, and I drop off my cardboard at the recycling center. Therefore, I have been active in the enviromental community and know enough to represent that seat on the commission." That was what some people were actually saying, I am not kidding you.
The same theory is now being applied to agriculture. "Well I have plants on my land, so I am a farmer. See all this grass?".
I just cannot tell you how totally p.o.'d that kind of very ignorant, and fake stupid "well I dont know I am innocent. Whats agriculture anyway? How do we define it? Lets ponder this until after the election. "
I will never forget, at the meeting I had a great conversation with one of the landowners, who actually turned out to be a really great couple.
I mentioned to the wife, that if they paid more attention to doing ag on their land they probably would not even need to supplement their income with the vacation rental, after finding out how much they charged for a room rental.
She agreed but said that the mortgage payments on the house were very high and that is why they needed to rent out rooms, but that if they did do more ag it probably would produce more.
Another issue that I heard, not from this couple whom I actually like, and think they really are pretty sincere poeple, I often here from these "farmers" that they can't sell their crops. Thats ridiculous. People are SCREAMING for Kauai produce. When I mention this, then they say that they can't get a good enough price for it if the market is flooded with certain seasonals.
So I tell people you need to niche market. Do hierlooms. Look at other varieties of crops. Do people listen? Nope. Want to know why?: Its real simple. They will "token farm", and then delight in failing, so they can say see, the land can't produce we cant make it work. SO we need to change the zoning because this ag land is just no good for farming.
That is the most bogus argument there is in this modern agricultural era. There are tons of soil ammendments that are safe, like sunhemp, a natural soil conditioner. Two or in the worst cases three rounds of this crop and you can fix the most depleted soils. A round of liming afterwards, and there is just absolutely no excuse for not being able to get in a crop of anything. A good load of loam from the west side maybe, if you need to, and six inches or organic topsoil tilled in, and you are on your way to a highly productive peice of land. There is NO EXCUSE for not being able to bring in a crop. Especially if land has been fallow for awhile. Everyone knows fallow land is the best for ammending and rejuvination, and will be able to produce well if you take care of your spoils properly.
But all this is a waste of breath. These poeple will do the exact opposite to ensure they DON'T get a good crop or do well. Then they can whine, moan, and complain. THey waste all of the ag lands, they trash them, they do everything wrong, and they are the ones that contribute to the degeneration of our soils and ag lands.
I would like an ordinance where we take the land away from farmers, and give it out to poeple like me who can actually farm. WHo know how to produce food, or to ranch and produce meats, cheeses, or who can grow herbs or medicinals, or who can produce traditional canoe plant crops, or florals that can be used for mass producing leis, such as vanda orchids, and plumerias.Ho0w about growong ipu gourds, and Kauai wauke, and producing real Hawaiian tapa again? how about lauhala groves, and a manyfacturing area, where we can produce lauhala weavinjg from right here on Kauai? How about ulu groves, and the selling of breadfgruit? More taro farming? how about hawaiian medicinal plant farms? How about niche marketing, such as truffles, vineyards, and then wines produced right on kauai? Fruit tree groves, and then the production of jams and jellies from them? What about the numerous varieties of teas, and then the manufacture and packaging right here? What about the fruits which we need to export such as papayas, mangoes, bananas? How about edible gingers, and a host of other hierloom and niche marketing crops? This is what agriculture is.
The guy that said he couldnt grow an orange tree by the ocean, obviousely a mainland transplant does not understand that years ago, in the kalalau valley true farmers came here form the mainland, planted citrus in the kalalau valley, on the ocean, on the coast, with wind and rain, and saltwater, and were able to supply all of California with citrus, including oranges limes and lemons. When I hear this guy complaining he cant grow an orange tree, that just really insults the intelligence of Kauais people. since we know the history of citrus here. In particular the varieties of Ka'u oranges that are adapted to those conditions, the Hawaiian lemon s and limes, ect. So we know the guy is just totally incapable. HE should not have that land. Give it to a real farmer.
But then, ag lands do not go to people like me, who can actually farm, know what to plant and where and how to ammend the soil and make things grow.
It goes to rich greedy fake so called "farmers", who come here, don't know what the heck they are doing, fail, and then cry and moan that they HAVE to have a vacation rental, or they can not possibly make it!!
What a ridiculous, unfair farce.
The worst thing is when the council whines they don't know what agriculture is and they are trying to figure out how to define it. That's like saying they don't know how to eat, or walk, or stand upright, and they have to define it.
It reminds me of the ridiculous debates a few years ago about what constitutes an "environmentalist", regarding the seat on the planning commission that states there must be a representative from enviromental interests on the planning commission.
Its the same thing. Some people said, well I know which bin to put cardboard in, and I drop off my cardboard at the recycling center. Therefore, I have been active in the enviromental community and know enough to represent that seat on the commission." That was what some people were actually saying, I am not kidding you.
The same theory is now being applied to agriculture. "Well I have plants on my land, so I am a farmer. See all this grass?".
I just cannot tell you how totally p.o.'d that kind of very ignorant, and fake stupid "well I dont know I am innocent. Whats agriculture anyway? How do we define it? Lets ponder this until after the election. "
I will never forget, at the meeting I had a great conversation with one of the landowners, who actually turned out to be a really great couple.
I mentioned to the wife, that if they paid more attention to doing ag on their land they probably would not even need to supplement their income with the vacation rental, after finding out how much they charged for a room rental.
She agreed but said that the mortgage payments on the house were very high and that is why they needed to rent out rooms, but that if they did do more ag it probably would produce more.
Another issue that I heard, not from this couple whom I actually like, and think they really are pretty sincere poeple, I often here from these "farmers" that they can't sell their crops. Thats ridiculous. People are SCREAMING for Kauai produce. When I mention this, then they say that they can't get a good enough price for it if the market is flooded with certain seasonals.
So I tell people you need to niche market. Do hierlooms. Look at other varieties of crops. Do people listen? Nope. Want to know why?: Its real simple. They will "token farm", and then delight in failing, so they can say see, the land can't produce we cant make it work. SO we need to change the zoning because this ag land is just no good for farming.
That is the most bogus argument there is in this modern agricultural era. There are tons of soil ammendments that are safe, like sunhemp, a natural soil conditioner. Two or in the worst cases three rounds of this crop and you can fix the most depleted soils. A round of liming afterwards, and there is just absolutely no excuse for not being able to get in a crop of anything. A good load of loam from the west side maybe, if you need to, and six inches or organic topsoil tilled in, and you are on your way to a highly productive peice of land. There is NO EXCUSE for not being able to bring in a crop. Especially if land has been fallow for awhile. Everyone knows fallow land is the best for ammending and rejuvination, and will be able to produce well if you take care of your spoils properly.
But all this is a waste of breath. These poeple will do the exact opposite to ensure they DON'T get a good crop or do well. Then they can whine, moan, and complain. THey waste all of the ag lands, they trash them, they do everything wrong, and they are the ones that contribute to the degeneration of our soils and ag lands.
I would like an ordinance where we take the land away from farmers, and give it out to poeple like me who can actually farm. WHo know how to produce food, or to ranch and produce meats, cheeses, or who can grow herbs or medicinals, or who can produce traditional canoe plant crops, or florals that can be used for mass producing leis, such as vanda orchids, and plumerias.Ho0w about growong ipu gourds, and Kauai wauke, and producing real Hawaiian tapa again? how about lauhala groves, and a manyfacturing area, where we can produce lauhala weavinjg from right here on Kauai? How about ulu groves, and the selling of breadfgruit? More taro farming? how about hawaiian medicinal plant farms? How about niche marketing, such as truffles, vineyards, and then wines produced right on kauai? Fruit tree groves, and then the production of jams and jellies from them? What about the numerous varieties of teas, and then the manufacture and packaging right here? What about the fruits which we need to export such as papayas, mangoes, bananas? How about edible gingers, and a host of other hierloom and niche marketing crops? This is what agriculture is.
The guy that said he couldnt grow an orange tree by the ocean, obviousely a mainland transplant does not understand that years ago, in the kalalau valley true farmers came here form the mainland, planted citrus in the kalalau valley, on the ocean, on the coast, with wind and rain, and saltwater, and were able to supply all of California with citrus, including oranges limes and lemons. When I hear this guy complaining he cant grow an orange tree, that just really insults the intelligence of Kauais people. since we know the history of citrus here. In particular the varieties of Ka'u oranges that are adapted to those conditions, the Hawaiian lemon s and limes, ect. So we know the guy is just totally incapable. HE should not have that land. Give it to a real farmer.
Thursday, June 24, 2010
Public input sought on strawberry guava plan
Public input sought on strawberry guava plan-I will be in SUPPORT
I will be testifying in FAVOR of this. I did a lot of research on this, read everything and made a few phone calls. This species will NOT impat Native HAwaiian plants. this was proven after an amazing solid 15 years of biological research. SPecifically done in HAwaii, with Hawaiian plants. I can tell you thqt this is one plan that I am in absolute agreement!! THere is virtually NO SINGLE FOREST on Kauai that is not threatened by this species!
Now, If we can just come up with something for the Java plum, and the African Tulip, then we could virtually restore our native forests!. Oh and throw in invasive ferns that choke out the palapalai, and invasive non indigenous gingers, and then we could restore the forests!!. If this proves its worth, that may be quickly coming in the future!!
I will be testifying in FAVOR of this. I did a lot of research on this, read everything and made a few phone calls. This species will NOT impat Native HAwaiian plants. this was proven after an amazing solid 15 years of biological research. SPecifically done in HAwaii, with Hawaiian plants. I can tell you thqt this is one plan that I am in absolute agreement!! THere is virtually NO SINGLE FOREST on Kauai that is not threatened by this species!
Now, If we can just come up with something for the Java plum, and the African Tulip, then we could virtually restore our native forests!. Oh and throw in invasive ferns that choke out the palapalai, and invasive non indigenous gingers, and then we could restore the forests!!. If this proves its worth, that may be quickly coming in the future!!
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
I do not endorse Mufi Hanneman for Governor
Our party needs an absolute purging! It is disgusting, and I am totally disgusted.
I have made a public statement that Mufi Hanneman needs to proudly walk himself on over to the GOP and stay there.
Do not let the door hit you on the way out.
That goes for all of the rest of the closet Republicans we have infecting our party. Its like a rampant disease.
Say you are a "democrat", then just act like a Republican. Get the benefit of no one voting you out, because you are catering to both sides.
In the meantime, the Democrat party has consistantly told me, year after year, that I am not a Democrat because they cannot seem to find my name on the list.
So, the real Democrats are treated like crap, while the Republicrats are treated like gold and offered stuff, while the rest of us true Democrats are pretty much ignored.
I have stated that I will call for a boycott of the Governors race if Mufi Hanneman is selected by our party.
I am not advocating voting Republican, because why bother you can just vote for Mufi. What I am advocating is plunking for Gary, and that is it.
If we all threaten not to vote, and let Aiona have it, because what is the difference between Aiona and Hanneman? Nothing. Hanneman is a conservative Republican.
I am willing to stand by the boycott idea. If everyone really cares about the state, the election and the campaign, they will vote for Amercrombie. Period. I can sincerely tell you that many REAL Democrats are disgusted with the thought of a Hanneman win.
Most outer islands people do not want Hanneman for other reasons. He is for Oahu. Its all about Oahu. Outer islands? Trash them, who cares. Its Oahu that matters.
Hanneman can raise all of the money he wants.
Some of us would rather throw the baby out with the bathwater and commit political hari kari then allow this imposter to the throne on the governors seat, to wreak havoc for another 8 yers of exactly the kind of leadership that Lingle has shown.
I for one will never tow the party line on this one. The box will remain empty. And I will encourage others to do the same.
I have made a public statement that Mufi Hanneman needs to proudly walk himself on over to the GOP and stay there.
Do not let the door hit you on the way out.
That goes for all of the rest of the closet Republicans we have infecting our party. Its like a rampant disease.
Say you are a "democrat", then just act like a Republican. Get the benefit of no one voting you out, because you are catering to both sides.
In the meantime, the Democrat party has consistantly told me, year after year, that I am not a Democrat because they cannot seem to find my name on the list.
So, the real Democrats are treated like crap, while the Republicrats are treated like gold and offered stuff, while the rest of us true Democrats are pretty much ignored.
I have stated that I will call for a boycott of the Governors race if Mufi Hanneman is selected by our party.
I am not advocating voting Republican, because why bother you can just vote for Mufi. What I am advocating is plunking for Gary, and that is it.
If we all threaten not to vote, and let Aiona have it, because what is the difference between Aiona and Hanneman? Nothing. Hanneman is a conservative Republican.
I am willing to stand by the boycott idea. If everyone really cares about the state, the election and the campaign, they will vote for Amercrombie. Period. I can sincerely tell you that many REAL Democrats are disgusted with the thought of a Hanneman win.
Most outer islands people do not want Hanneman for other reasons. He is for Oahu. Its all about Oahu. Outer islands? Trash them, who cares. Its Oahu that matters.
Hanneman can raise all of the money he wants.
Some of us would rather throw the baby out with the bathwater and commit political hari kari then allow this imposter to the throne on the governors seat, to wreak havoc for another 8 yers of exactly the kind of leadership that Lingle has shown.
I for one will never tow the party line on this one. The box will remain empty. And I will encourage others to do the same.
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
Monday, June 21, 2010
Faith group seeks new path as stone is moved - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
Faith group seeks new path as stone is moved - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com
GIVE ME A BREAK-MY COMMENTARY ON THIS
1. First of all, there is NO SHIVA IN HAWAII.
2. The Gods here are 400,000. ABout a thousand times more then they have in India.
3. If you want to worship Shiva in YOUR pohaku, then BRING IT FROM INDIA AND HOUSE IT IN THE TEMPLE.
4. This is not a "stone", but a KII POHAKU. A standing stone. THese stones, are Laa Kii Pohaku, sacred standing stones were EXCLUSIVELY MALE IN GENDER. (THEY WERE NOT FEMALE OR FEMININE IN ANY WAY AT ALL. (SHIVA IS A FEMALE GODESS IN THE HINDU BELEIF).
6. IF you want people to be respectful of YOUR religion, then respect the HAWAIIAN religion!! If YOUR religion beleives in the embodiment of living gods or godesses living within stones, and the Hawaiians beleive the same thing, why would you move the stone in the first place? It was housed in a ":shack". What may be a shack to you, is a blessed place, just old with certain materials. I am AMAZED at the AUDACITY of Hindu religious practitioners flooding into Hawaii, and trying to OVERTAKE THE HAWAIIAN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES AND BELEIFS!!
7. That this stone was removed is a good thing. I applaud it one hundred percent!! STOP STEALING THE SACRED POHAKU!! ITS NOT YOURS ITS THE LAST THING THE PEOPLE HAVE NOW U TAKE EVEN THAT AND SAY IT IS YOURS! HEWA HEWA HEWA!!
stone is moved
A focal point for many in Wahiawa will be repatriated to a Hawaiian birthing site
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 21, 2010
Papia Sengupta said she and her fellow members of the Lord of the Universe Society (LOTUS) are not going to dwell on matters beyond their control, but the tears on her cheeks yesterday seemed clear-enough indication that the loss of the group's central object of worship was still fresh.
Members of the Hindu group had spent 22 years as adopted caretakers of the so-called Healing Stone of Wahiawa, in which they discerned the presence of the god Shiva. In recent years, the group had worked in loose partnership with a group of Hawaiian nationalists who valued the stone's historical significance as a kapu marker for the sacred area of Kaukonahua. Last week, the Hawaiian group removed the stone from the marble temple on California Avenue that LOTUS had built for its protection.
Tom Lenchenko, kahu of Kukaniloko, said the stone would eventually be repatriated to Kukaniloko, the venerated birthing site of Hawaiian alii where it had spent the early part of the last century.
Yesterday, LOTUS observed its regularly scheduled monthly service at the California Avenue site, its first since the stone was removed.
"We are very sad, very depressed," Sengupta said afterward. "Our religion tells us to be tolerant and reasonable. We are nonviolent people and we do not want to create conflict, so we must now decide what we do from here and not look to the past. It is very important for us to keep this community together."
The ceremony proceeded as it always does with the bathing of sacred icons in milk, honey and yogurt, the honoring of gods Ganesh and Shiva, and the recitation of 108 variations of Shiva's name. The audience sat tightly packed together on the small marble platform, many dressed in brightly colored traditional garb, their eyes occasionally drawn to the empty concrete cradle on which the largest portion of the three-piece stone had rested.
Robert Cain, who attended to the day-to-day cleaning of the temple and its surrounding areas, was there the morning that the stone was removed.
"I arrived here around 5 a.m. to do my normal cleanup and I was surprised to see (kahu Elithe Kahn) with a group of people," Cain said. "They had watered down the stone and were preparing a ceremony. I asked her what the occasion was and she said, 'It's time to move the stone.'"
Kahn, who holds the lease on the small plot on which the temple stands, worked with Lenchenko to get authorization from the property owner to move the stone, although LOTUS was never informed of the plan.
Cain said he left but returned a couple of hours later to watch a group of people use jackhammers to loosen the stone from its anchoring. Cain said he was invited to stay for a ceremonial blessing. There was a moment of tension when a couple of LOTUS members arrived at the scene, but Cain said the entire process of moving the stone was handled efficiently and was "very respectful."
Sengupta said LOTUS erected the temple around the stone to protect it (it had previously been housed in a dilapidated shack) and to give people in the community an opportunity to worship it as they saw fit.
"We never said it was our stone," she said. "It was always available to anybody who has faith. We worshipped it in our way and for us it was a peaceful and disciplined way for our children to see how we get together. But it has always been about the entire community. Now we need the support of the community if we are going to go on."
LOTUS board members have begun discussions of what to do with the temple now that the stone is gone. They are considering taking over the soon-to-expire lease so they can continue to make the temple available to visitors.
"I was amazed that (the stone's removal) happened so suddenly," said longtime LOTUS member Mira Savara, 56, of Aina Haina. "We're definitely going to miss its presence and its blessings, but this place has become such a powerful place for prayer. We believe in praying together and I will still come."
Members of the Lord of the Universe Society gathered yesterday at the former site of the Healing Stone of Wahiawa. The empty base of the stone is in the background.
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Papia Sengupta said she and her fellow members of the Lord of the Universe Society (LOTUS) are not going to dwell on matters beyond their control, but the tears on her cheeks yesterday seemed clear-enough indication that the loss of the group's central object of worship was still fresh.
Members of the Hindu group had spent 22 years as adopted caretakers of the so-called Healing Stone of Wahiawa, in which they discerned the presence of the god Shiva. In recent years, the group had worked in loose partnership with a group of Hawaiian nationalists who valued the stone's historical significance as a kapu marker for the sacred area of Kaukonahua. Last week, the Hawaiian group removed the stone from the marble temple on California Avenue that LOTUS had built for its protection.
Tom Lenchenko, kahu of Kukaniloko, said the stone would eventually be repatriated to Kukaniloko, the venerated birthing site of Hawaiian alii where it had spent the early part of the last century.
Yesterday, LOTUS observed its regularly scheduled monthly service at the California Avenue site, its first since the stone was removed.
"We are very sad, very depressed," Sengupta said afterward. "Our religion tells us to be tolerant and reasonable. We are nonviolent people and we do not want to create conflict, so we must now decide what we do from here and not look to the past. It is very important for us to keep this community together."
The ceremony proceeded as it always does with the bathing of sacred icons in milk, honey and yogurt, the honoring of gods Ganesh and Shiva, and the recitation of 108 variations of Shiva's name. The audience sat tightly packed together on the small marble platform, many dressed in brightly colored traditional garb, their eyes occasionally drawn to the empty concrete cradle on which the largest portion of the three-piece stone had rested.
Robert Cain, who attended to the day-to-day cleaning of the temple and its surrounding areas, was there the morning that the stone was removed.
"I arrived here around 5 a.m. to do my normal cleanup and I was surprised to see (kahu Elithe Kahn) with a group of people," Cain said. "They had watered down the stone and were preparing a ceremony. I asked her what the occasion was and she said, 'It's time to move the stone.'"
Kahn, who holds the lease on the small plot on which the temple stands, worked with Lenchenko to get authorization from the property owner to move the stone, although LOTUS was never informed of the plan.
Cain said he left but returned a couple of hours later to watch a group of people use jackhammers to loosen the stone from its anchoring. Cain said he was invited to stay for a ceremonial blessing. There was a moment of tension when a couple of LOTUS members arrived at the scene, but Cain said the entire process of moving the stone was handled efficiently and was "very respectful."
Sengupta said LOTUS erected the temple around the stone to protect it (it had previously been housed in a dilapidated shack) and to give people in the community an opportunity to worship it as they saw fit.
"We never said it was our stone," she said. "It was always available to anybody who has faith. We worshipped it in our way and for us it was a peaceful and disciplined way for our children to see how we get together. But it has always been about the entire community. Now we need the support of the community if we are going to go on."
LOTUS board members have begun discussions of what to do with the temple now that the stone is gone. They are considering taking over the soon-to-expire lease so they can continue to make the temple available to visitors.
"I was amazed that (the stone's removal) happened so suddenly," said longtime LOTUS member Mira Savara, 56, of Aina Haina. "We're definitely going to miss its presence and its blessings, but this place has become such a powerful place for prayer. We believe in praying together and I will still come."
1. First of all, there is NO SHIVA IN HAWAII.
2. The Gods here are 400,000. ABout a thousand times more then they have in India.
3. If you want to worship Shiva in YOUR pohaku, then BRING IT FROM INDIA AND HOUSE IT IN THE TEMPLE.
4. This is not a "stone", but a KII POHAKU. A standing stone. THese stones, are Laa Kii Pohaku, sacred standing stones were EXCLUSIVELY MALE IN GENDER. (THEY WERE NOT FEMALE OR FEMININE IN ANY WAY AT ALL. (SHIVA IS A FEMALE GODESS IN THE HINDU BELEIF).
6. IF you want people to be respectful of YOUR religion, then respect the HAWAIIAN religion!! If YOUR religion beleives in the embodiment of living gods or godesses living within stones, and the Hawaiians beleive the same thing, why would you move the stone in the first place? It was housed in a ":shack". What may be a shack to you, is a blessed place, just old with certain materials. I am AMAZED at the AUDACITY of Hindu religious practitioners flooding into Hawaii, and trying to OVERTAKE THE HAWAIIAN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES AND BELEIFS!!
7. That this stone was removed is a good thing. I applaud it one hundred percent!! STOP STEALING THE SACRED POHAKU!! ITS NOT YOURS ITS THE LAST THING THE PEOPLE HAVE NOW U TAKE EVEN THAT AND SAY IT IS YOURS! HEWA HEWA HEWA!!
Democratic chief takes Mufi to the woodshed « Volcanic Ash
Democratic chief takes Mufi to the woodshed « Volcanic Ash
Democratic chief takes Mufi to the woodshed
Mayor Mufi Hannemann got a dressing down from Democratic Party Chairman Dante Carpenter for not minding his manners at the recent state Democratic Convention, where Hannemann stumped as a candidate for governor.
In a 2 1/2-page letter to Hannemann, Carpenter complained that the mayor and his campaign committee decided not to sponsor a breakfast it was expected to host, “created turmoil” by hosting a competing campaign event that drew delegates away from Resolution Committee meetings, breached an agreement on the time for the mayor’s speech to the convention, ignored the time limit on the speech despite repeated warnings and tried to bamboozle hotel audiovisual people into playing an unauthorized campaign disc after the Hannemann speech.
“Working with your campaign representatives at times became cumbersome and created confusion,” Carpenter said. “Misunderstandings between your campaign representatives and the convention committee were numerous.”
Carpenter said that even after the Hannemann campaign was asked to avoid having its Friday night event interfere with the Resolutions Committee, the campaign placed invitations on the chairs of all the committee meeting rooms.
“At minimum, your Friday function represented a ‘distraction’ while at worst it was disrespectful of the very core reasons for the Friday night Democratic Party’s convention meetings — the serious participation of convention delegates engaged in developing Democratic Party principles,” Carpenter said.
He said the Hannemann campaign insisted on a written agreement for the time of Hannemann’s speech, then breached it.
“The written agreement stated that you would speak for five minutes with 1-2 minutes of ‘wiggle room.’ In fact, you spoke for 12 minutes and even when called on subtly three times by me (‘… Mufi, Pau’) to wrap up your remarks, you did not.
“In addition, during your speech your representative approached the Hilton’s AV people and gave them a disc to play at the end of your speech and informed the Hilton people that the convention committee had approved it. Hilton people checked and discovered that no such arrangements had been made or approved to place special for music for you and they did not. This representing yourself to the Hilton AV people was inappropriate; putting our people in the position of having to tell Hilton that no arrangements had been made was embarrassing for all concerned.”
Carpenter expressed disappointment that Hannemann didn’t participate in the nitty-gritty of the convention’s work.
“In your speech you spoke about your mentors, specifically Senator Inouye and Governor Waihe’e; both excellent examples of outstanding, committed Democrats. For your information, both Senator Inouye and Governor Waihe’e participated in many aspects of the 2010 convention, voting on resolutions, SSC members, national committeeman and state convention chair elections.
“It was a privilege for me to be able to look out over the delegation and see these two men sitting at the table with the delegates from their districts and precincts. Had you followed the examples you cited, I am sure that the delegates from your district and precinct would have enjoyed having you sit with them and share your views on the platform, resolutions and changes to the party’s constitution, as well.”
As party chairman, Carpenter says he’s neutral in the primary contest for governor between Hannemann and former U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie. When Carpenter served in the state Senate in the early 1980s, he and Abercrombie were both members of a faction led by Ben Cayetano.
ANd you have to ask me why I do NOT SUPPORT Mufi Hanneman as the next so called, fake, sheeps wool "Democratic" candidate for the governor? Hell No. Not only this, he has gone against civil unions, treated the homeless like garbage, and only cares about Oahu. WHat will the outer islands gain by this obvious conservative republican in Democratic Party sheeps clothing? ZERO.
The outer islands revolt will show in the voting booth, trust me.
Democratic chief takes Mufi to the woodshed
Mayor Mufi Hannemann got a dressing down from Democratic Party Chairman Dante Carpenter for not minding his manners at the recent state Democratic Convention, where Hannemann stumped as a candidate for governor.
In a 2 1/2-page letter to Hannemann, Carpenter complained that the mayor and his campaign committee decided not to sponsor a breakfast it was expected to host, “created turmoil” by hosting a competing campaign event that drew delegates away from Resolution Committee meetings, breached an agreement on the time for the mayor’s speech to the convention, ignored the time limit on the speech despite repeated warnings and tried to bamboozle hotel audiovisual people into playing an unauthorized campaign disc after the Hannemann speech.
“Working with your campaign representatives at times became cumbersome and created confusion,” Carpenter said. “Misunderstandings between your campaign representatives and the convention committee were numerous.”
Carpenter said that even after the Hannemann campaign was asked to avoid having its Friday night event interfere with the Resolutions Committee, the campaign placed invitations on the chairs of all the committee meeting rooms.
“At minimum, your Friday function represented a ‘distraction’ while at worst it was disrespectful of the very core reasons for the Friday night Democratic Party’s convention meetings — the serious participation of convention delegates engaged in developing Democratic Party principles,” Carpenter said.
He said the Hannemann campaign insisted on a written agreement for the time of Hannemann’s speech, then breached it.
“The written agreement stated that you would speak for five minutes with 1-2 minutes of ‘wiggle room.’ In fact, you spoke for 12 minutes and even when called on subtly three times by me (‘… Mufi, Pau’) to wrap up your remarks, you did not.
“In addition, during your speech your representative approached the Hilton’s AV people and gave them a disc to play at the end of your speech and informed the Hilton people that the convention committee had approved it. Hilton people checked and discovered that no such arrangements had been made or approved to place special for music for you and they did not. This representing yourself to the Hilton AV people was inappropriate; putting our people in the position of having to tell Hilton that no arrangements had been made was embarrassing for all concerned.”
Carpenter expressed disappointment that Hannemann didn’t participate in the nitty-gritty of the convention’s work.
“In your speech you spoke about your mentors, specifically Senator Inouye and Governor Waihe’e; both excellent examples of outstanding, committed Democrats. For your information, both Senator Inouye and Governor Waihe’e participated in many aspects of the 2010 convention, voting on resolutions, SSC members, national committeeman and state convention chair elections.
“It was a privilege for me to be able to look out over the delegation and see these two men sitting at the table with the delegates from their districts and precincts. Had you followed the examples you cited, I am sure that the delegates from your district and precinct would have enjoyed having you sit with them and share your views on the platform, resolutions and changes to the party’s constitution, as well.”
As party chairman, Carpenter says he’s neutral in the primary contest for governor between Hannemann and former U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie. When Carpenter served in the state Senate in the early 1980s, he and Abercrombie were both members of a faction led by Ben Cayetano.
ANd you have to ask me why I do NOT SUPPORT Mufi Hanneman as the next so called, fake, sheeps wool "Democratic" candidate for the governor? Hell No. Not only this, he has gone against civil unions, treated the homeless like garbage, and only cares about Oahu. WHat will the outer islands gain by this obvious conservative republican in Democratic Party sheeps clothing? ZERO.
The outer islands revolt will show in the voting booth, trust me.
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