Friday, March 5, 2010

Cutting Through The Noise | Coffee Party

Cutting Through The Noise | Coffee Party

Cutting Through The Noise

Informative, reality-based articles and essays

HEALTH CARE

“Myths and Falsehoods About Health Care Reform”
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908200002
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909080001
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911130002

“Seven Falsehoods About Health Care: Big myths about the current debate”
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/

“Conservative media revive “death panels” yet again with new, false target”
http://mediamatters.org/research/200912230036

“Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200: A notorious analysis of the House health care bill contains 48 claims. Twenty-six of them are false and the rest mostly misleading. Only four are true.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

IMMIGRATION

CIR (Comprehensive Immigration Reform) recommended by CATO institute, a respected conservative think tank, to create jobs and infuse the American economy. “The positive impact for U.S. households of legalization under an optimal visa tax would be 1.27 percent of GDP or $180 billion.”
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10438

CIR (Comprehensive Immigration reform) is good for economic recovery, so says Center for American Progress, a respected center-left think tank.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/11/immigration_economy.html

CLIMATE CHANGE

“Climategate: Hacked e-mails show climate scientists in a bad light but don’t change scientific consensus on global warming.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/

“Can the media’s climate change deniers ignore the latest temperature record?”
http://mediamatters.org/research/201001250018

“Say it ain’t snow: Media suggestions that snowstorms cast doubt on global warming”
http://mediamatters.org/research/201002110035

Cap-and-trade: Green Jobs or Job Killer? Government energy economists predict job growth would likely slow, but how much is uncertain. “
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/cap-and-trade-green-jobs-or-job-killer/

ECONOMY/DEFICIT

“Myths and falsehoods about the deficit
http://mediamatters.org/research/201001270030
Hannity falsely claims Obama “created” the “massive deficit” and that “stimulus is a failure”
http://mediamatters.org/research/201001290035

TERRORISM

“Myths and falsehoods surrounding the Christmas Day terrorist attack
http://mediamatters.org/research/201001080024

BIRTHERISM

“Salon’s handy-dandy guide to refuting the Birthers
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/birther_faq/

PRESIDENT OBAMA

“Myths and falsehoods about Barack Obama
http://mediamatters.org/research/200703200011

SARAH PALIN

“Tea Party Fact-Checking: Palin makes a few errors in her convention speech — and on Fox News Sunday.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/tea-party-fact-checking/

Worst Falsehoods Told in 2009

Whoppers of 2009: We review the choicest falsehoods from a year that kept us busy.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/whoppers-of-2009/

TORTURE

Monica Crowley revives dubious claim that waterboarding KSM resulted in “actionable intelligence”
http://mediamatters.org/research/201001100010

Coffee Party: A Tea Party for liberals? - THE WEEK

As the conservative grassroots Tea Party gains influence, a new movement called the Coffee Party recently emerged as an alternative for frustrated left-leaning voters — with citizens across the country interested in starting or joining a local chapter. Here, an instant guide to the Coffee party's origins, its message, and its possible impact on the U.S. political scene:

How did the Coffee Party start?
The self-described "100-percent grassroots" organization was born of a single Facebook status update. Washington, DC-area documentary filmmaker Annabel Park, 41, wrote on Jan. 26: "Let's start a coffee party...let's get together and drink cappuccino and have real political dialogue with substance and compassion." The impromptu notion quickly grew into a "Join the Coffee Party Movement" fan page and a website, Coffee Party USA.

What is the movement's message?
The Coffee Party is committed to promoting civility and "solutions-oriented" discussion in our nation's political discourse — in contrast to the "blame oriented" politics the Tea Party practices. Movement leaders also hope to reduce the influence "corporate interests" have on our voting process, and to promote a progressive legislative agenda.

Is it part of the Democratic Party?
Park has said that her movement is not "aligned" with any party and has dismissed the two-party system as out of date. That said, the Coffee Party's message seems to be overtly pro-Democrat. and Annabel Park and other Coffee Party organizers volunteered with the 2008 Obama presidential campaign.

Is it a direct reaction to the Tea Party movement?
Park has told CNN that her initiative is a "response to how [Tea party leaders] are trying to change our government," adding that the two groups want some of the same things, but she finds the Tea Party's methodology "alienating."

How big is the Coffee Party?
The Coffee Party's Facebook fan page had 40,000 members on March 1. Three days later, the number was 70,000 and growing. Local chapters have popped up in 30 states. "I’m in shock, just the level of energy here," said Park in an interview with The New York Times. "We have 300 requests to start a chapter that I have not been able to respond to."

Is anyone taking it seriously?
Yes and no. Conservatives have dismissed the Coffee Party as "simply...part of the perpetual Obama campaign." Brendan Steinhauser of FreedomWorks, a non-profit with ties to the Tea Party, says, "This Coffee Party looks like a weak attempt at satire or a manufactured response to a legitimate widespread grassroots movement." Even some on the left are skeptical. "Coffee is America's wake-up drink," says Barb Shelly in the Kansas City Star. "Tea is thought of as the weak substitute. Sorry to say, though, I think the reverse will be true in politics."

Does Annabel Park really drink "cappuccino" instead of coffee?
Unclear, but she was initially flexible on the beverage front. Her original Facebook post read: [L]et's start a coffee party … smoothie party. red bull party. anything but tea...ooh how about cappuccino party? That would really piss 'em off because it sounds elitist."

THIS WAS AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY THE WEEK NEWS AND OPINION.

Glenn Greenwald

Glenn Greenwald

Who are the actual "crazy" people in American politics?

(updated below)

My Salon colleague, Mark Benjamin, writes about last night's Larry King Show -- featuring a debate between Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson and GOP Rep. Michelle Bachmann -- and does so by repeatedly branding Grayson as being every bit as "crazy" as Bachmann. Beginning with the article's headline ("Bachmann and Grayson: A diary of crazy") to his sarcastic description of "these two towering intellects" to his claim that Grayson and Bachmann are "the Candy Stripers of Crazy of their parties," Benjamin denigrates Grayson's intellect and mental health by depicting him -- with virtually no cited basis -- as the Democratic mirror image of Bachmann's rabid, out-of-touch extremism. This view of Grayson has become a virtual Washington platitude, solidified by The New York Times' David Herszenhorn's dismissal of Grayson as "the latest incarnation of what in the American political idiom is known as a wing nut."

There are so many things wrong with this analysis. To begin with, it's a classic case of false journalistic objectivity: the compulsion of journalists to posit equivalencies between the "two sides" regardless of whether they are actually equal (since I'm calling a GOP member of Congress "crazy," I now have to find a Democrat to so label). Benjamin cites numerous Bachmann statements that demonstrate her penchant for bizarre claims (and there are many he omitted), but points to only one Grayson statement: his famous floor speech in which he claimed: "If you get sick in America, the Republican health care plan is this: Die quickly." One could reasonably object to that statement as unduly inflammatory rhetoric, but Grayson was one of the only members of Congress willing to forcefully connect health care policy to the actual lives (and deaths) of American citizens. There's nothing crazy about dramatically emphasizing that causal connection; far crazier is to ignore it.

But more important, Grayson has managed to have more positive impact on more substantive matters than any House freshman in a long time (indeed, he makes more of a positive impact than the vast majority of members of Congress generally). He has tapped into his background as successful litigator and his Harvard degrees in law and public policy to shape public discussion on a wide range of issues -- from his highly effective grilling of the Fed Vice Chair regarding massive, secretive Fed activities and aggressive investigation of the fraud surrounding the Wall Street bailout to his unparalleled work exposing defense contractor corruption, his efforts to warn of the unconstitutional underpinnings of anti-ACORN legislation (a federal court proved him right), his creative (if not wise) legislative proposals to limit corporate influence in politics, and his successful, bipartisan crusade to bring more transparency to the Fed. What conceivable basis exists for disparaging as "crazy" one of the few members of Congress who is both willing and able to bring attention to some of the most severe corruption and worst excesses of our political establishment?

The most significant point highlighted by this attack on Grayson as "crazy" is that, in our political discourse, the two party establishments typically define what is "sane," and anyone outside of those parameters is, by definition, "crazy." "Crazy" is the way that political orthodoxies are enforced and the leadership of the two political parties preserved as the only viable choices for Sane People to embrace. Anyone who tiptoes outside of those establishment parameters -- from Ron Paul on the right to Dennis Kucinich on the left, to say nothing of Further Left advocates -- is, more or less by definition, branded as "crazy" by all Serious, mainstream people.

The converse is even more perverse: the Washington establishment -- which has endorsed countless insane policies, wrought so much destruction on every level, and has provoked the intense hatred of the American citizenry across the ideological spectrum -- is the exclusive determinant for what is "sane." As long as one remains snugly within its confines, one will be shielded from the "crazy" appellation regardless of how many genuinely crazy views one embraces. Positing proximity to the Washington Establishment -- of all things -- as the Hallmark of Political Sanity is about as irrational as it gets, yet that continues to be the barometer of Political Normalcy.

Just consider who is supported and embraced by those who slap the "crazy" label on the forehead of every perceived dissident. Hillary Clinton -- the ultimate embodiment of Democratic Party Seriousness and Sanity -- supported the invasion of Iraq by warning of scary weapons and Al Qaeda ties that did not exist ("Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members"), and she spent her campaign beating her chest and doing things like threatening to "totally obliterate" Iran. While in office, Barack Obama has endorsed putting people in cages with no charges, assassinating American citizens with no due process, eavesdropping on Americans en masse with little oversight, increasing military spending beyond its shockingly inflated levels while searching for ways to cut Medicaid and Social Security, and blocking judicial review of presidential felonies and war crimes on the ground that those criminal acts constitute vital "state secrets" and must be protected. Most Serious, Sane Democrats have supported all of that insanity.

Meanwhile, the GOP establishment from top to bottom spent a decade cheering on torture, disappearances, abductions, unprovoked wars, chronic presidential lawbreaking and truly sick McCarthyite witch hunts. Both of the Sane Parties conspired to transfer, with little accountability, massive amounts of public wealth to the very Wall Street firms which virtually destroyed the entire world economy, while standing by and doing very little about tragic levels of joblessness or the future risk of Wall-Street-caused financial crises; kept us waging war for a full decade in multiple countries (while threatening others) even as we near the precipice of bankruptcy, the hallmarks of under-developed nation status and the disappearance of the social safety net; and are so captive to the corporate interests which own the Government that they viciously compete with one another over who can be a more loyal servant to those interests.

While all of that is happening, those whom all Serious, Sane people agree are Crazy -- people like Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul and Alan Grayson -- vehemently oppose most if not all of that and try to find ways to expand the realm of legitimate debate and political alliances beyond the suffocating stranglehold of those responsible. So who exactly is Crazy? That Grayson sometimes treats our political discourse as the ludicrous freak show that it is, rather than pretending that it is substantive, sober and Serious, is evidence of his sanity -- not the opposite.

Are there positions held by people like Kucinich, Paul and Grayson that are fairly characterized as radical and wrong? Certainly: that's true for everyone, most of all the mavens of the Washington Establishment whose followers claim a monopoly on Sanity and demonize as Crazy all who deviate. But between establishment crazies and those who have been marginalized by them as Crazy, the former have wrought far more damage than the latter. It's not even a close call. There are many legitimate ways to measure Craziness; the extent to which one deviates from the orthodoxies of the political establishment is most assuredly not one of them. If anything, given the character and record of the American political establishment, such deviation is a necessary (though not sufficient) condition for actual sanity.

UPDATE: Here is a classic example of this dynamic: back in mid-January, a mere six weeks ago, Grayson went on Hardball and advocated that the Democrats pass health care reform through reconciliation, which would enable them to avoid a GOP filibuster. But back then, all Serious People (i.e., dutiful Party Loyalists) insisted that the mere suggestion was crazy (because neither party's leadership had yet deemed it acceptable), and Matthews thus angrily berated Grayson as crazy, unrealistic, an "outsider" and "pandering to the netroots" for suggesting such a thing (Beltway journalists are nothing if they're not mindless amplifiers of establishment orthodoxy). But now? Thirty-three Democratic Senators are calling for the passage of a public-option-inclusive health care reform bill via reconciliation, and the President himself wants to use that process as well (albeit without a public option). Now that Party Leaders have embraced reconciliation, it's been magically and instantly transformed from Crazy Fringe Loser Talk into Serious, Sane, Responsible Advocacy -- all within a matter of weeks. That's virtually always how the "Crazy" label works: as a means of marginalizing those who advocate ideas that the Washington Establishment rejects.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Holy Poi Balls, Batman! Bunning, Reid cross words over unemployment

Bunning, Reid cross words over unemployment

HOLY POI BALLS BATMAN!! Is this guy for REAL? This is the true face of the Republican party. This is the insanity under which their idealogy and policies rail against the poor, working poor, and disadvantaged, elderly and handicappaed, and now...those who need unemployment extensions, clearly because the prejudiced republican party feels that these peeple are lazy bums asking for a handout...which is ridiculous..do not deserve to eat, or have a rood over their heads. THis will be great news for Hawaii republicans, who hate their fellow man, and enjoy watching the less fortunate suffer under the brutal regime of our Governor, who while stating she loves the people of hawaii does everything she can to cut services to them. Disgusting VOTE OUT ALL REPUBLICANS in 2010!!

LUDICROUS CHARGE-Lingle says HSTA cares 'more about money than children' | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Lingle says HSTA cares 'more about money than children' | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

What insanity. Lingle has lost her mind. Herdministration is running completely amuk. This irresponsible behavior and statements from the Governor has just got to stop.

The gall of this lame duck governor to accuse TEACHERS, of not caring about children? What nerve.

This from a woman who has either made severe cutbacks, or obliterated nearly all programs in the state that would help children, or their struggling parents. I wonder how much longer her nose can actually grow? Its a wonder she can get out the door in the morning!!

Monday, March 1, 2010

Rehearsals for a Civil War

Rehearsals for a Civil War


By James Kunstler on 22 February 2010 on Kunstler.com -
(http://kunstler.com/blog/2010/02/rehearsals-for-a-civil-war.html)

Amid the general incoherence of the Tea Party rebels and the failure of progressives to recognize the structural changes underway in a peak oil world, lies a deadly swamp of paradox where all parties may drown in the quicksand of their own muddled intentions.

The Tea Party appeals to the swelling numbers of the new former middle class angry at the sudden vanishing of their accustomed perqs and entitlements to a predictably comfortable suburban existence. They're mad at the government and hot for "liberty." But how do they propose to maintain the hyper-complexities of suburban life without taxes to pay for fixing the countless roads their lives depend on or to run the gold-plated central school districts that seem to exist solely to provide Friday night football? As for liberty, a handful of despotic corporations from McDonalds to WalMart have been granted the liberty to destroy the Tea-bagger's bodies and the economic fabric of their communities -- and they seem to want more of that kind of liberty, based on the recent decision of a "conservative" majority on the Supreme Court allowing corporations to buy elections. The Tea-baggers also apparently crave the liberty to push other people around, especially on questions of abortion and religion. That's an interesting kind of freedom.

As more and more of them lose jobs and incomes, will they resent their government-issued extended unemployment benefits? I doubt that you'll see them burning their own checks in big public demonstrations the way the Vietnam War protesters burned their draft cards. And of course this also goes for the retiree Tea-baggers who show up at their Tea Parties to inveigh against the government -- except the agency that prints their social security checks, or the other one that pays for their liver transplants (while 40-million unretired, un-insured Americans under sixty-five get slammed with extortionary hospital bills for twenty-thousand dollar routine appendectomies that end up bankrupting them).

Meanwhile, the progressives led by President Obama are doing everything possible to deny the deep tectonic changes thundering through our economic arrangements. They have embarked on a campaign to sustain the unsustainable that will only aggravate and accelerate the more destructive effects of the historic changes underway. For instance, the financial crisis is nature's way of telling us that banking occupies too much space in our economy -- especially the "creative" kind of banking which thrives on innovations in fraud and swindles. Yet the progressives are shoveling the nation's accumulated savings (and way beyond that to earnings-not-yet-saved) into a handful of gigantic banks whose employees live in a separate universe of luxury, and the bail-outs only guarantee more financial mischief based on efforts to get something-for-nothing -- in the absence of an economy that turns capital investment into things of value.

Faced with the multiple threats of peak oil, the progressives are pounding billions into the automobile makers and shoveling tons of stimulus money into highway improvement projects, while the railroads we will desperately need in the future continue to be starved to death, and no effort is made to promote walkable communities -- including a federally-led reform of our insane zoning laws which mandate a suburban development outcome in every corner of the country.

Faced with the hangover of a housing bubble, the president's team has insidiously nationalized the racket and is doing everything possible to keep housing prices unrealistically inflated, so that nobody still lucky enough to have a median income can afford the median price of a house. Meanwhile, the agencies used to facilitate this accounting shell game -- Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, etc. -- are choking on worthless mortgage contracts and generating ever more new toxic mortgage paper.

Then, there is the question of our military adventures half a world away in Afghanistan and Iraq, where both parties are unwilling to face the basic conundrum of what happens when our troops leave those places. Even if we stamp out the current Taliban leadership there are countless avid up-and-comers burning to take their places, and numberless mountain valleys for them to hide in. Al Qaeda, of course, exists mainly as an international computer network. Good luck stamping that out. And if it's oil we're after in Iraq, there are three main possibilities after the last US soldier packs out: one is the unlikely possibility that a competent Iraqi national oil company decides to dole out drilling licenses to "preferred" companies (don't hold your breath Exxon-Mobil); another is that Iraq cracks up into smaller ethnic units lacking the capital or coherence to get their oil out of the ground; and a third is that neighboring Iran comes to control the major oil-producing region around Basra. So, what's it all about, Alfie? -- besides squandering a trillion dollars we don't really have.

Homeland security? Neither party is serious about defending the borders or limiting immigration, and anyway there are "soft" targets beyond counting all over the USA and small arms galore available to get the job done. Three guys with automatic rifles set loose in the Mall of America would be enough to push the retail sector over the edge into oblivion, taking with it the commercial real estate market and all the banks involved in financing it -- in short, destroying the tattered remains of the so-called "consumer economy."

My own guess about where this all leads is in the direction of more anger and incoherence by all parties involved -- which will itself generate yet more anger in a spiraling centrifugal feedback loop that could eventually tear this nation apart. It will be instructive to see how some of these forces play out in the Health Care Reform "summit" that President Obama has called for this week. The Republicans will be rope-a-doped into the uncomfortable position of trying to explain why they have no ideas whatsoever about fixing the hopelessly cruel and unjust medical system that everybody except government employees suffers under. The Democrats will be juked into the equally unhappy position of explaining how a bankrupt US Treasury pays for a more equitable system -- and the insurance companies will sit smirkingly on the sidelines watching both parties fail to address the necessary severe disciplining of the insurance racket.

In the background of even these momentous deliberations, the foundations of capital creak and shatter, the stock market infarcts and the bond market fibrillates, and all the accounting tricks ever dreamed of in the fantasies of Harvard MBAs and MIT math PhDs, and all the newly-evolved species of grifters and shysters who pull the levers of the system will not avail to hold back our inexorable journey into new circumstances that will really determine the outcome of these predicaments.


My take on this article.




Now, although I personally find this far too simplistic, or not simplistic enough: Ie tea party baggers are racists, prejudiced, bible thumping selfish jerks, or you can have my treatese on why the heck half of humanity are war mongering, hate mongering fear driven nutjobs, but it scratches the surface alright. The tone is against progressives, but the very act of progressing forces us to move forwards not backwards. There are innumerable videos on my you tube channel, punohuspicks, to sink a battleship showing the hate, racism, and fear that seems to drive the tea party bagger movement.

Two incidences stick out in my mind.

One was where a mother went to a community meeting about healthcare, and was booed and heckled as she told the rapid frothing at the mouth tea partiers that her child had just died because they could not afford her health care. That was a very low moment for the tea bagger movement.

The other low moment as far as I am concerned, was the shooting of two American Citizens of Hispanic decent in a home invasion crime, perpetrated by two "patriot" vigilantes, both white, with a mexican national accomplice. There are you tube videos showing the two murderers, talking much like the rest of patriots do. And yes, these guys are solidly entrenched in the tea bagger movement.

It is definately a racist movement on its whole dark underbelly, trying to show some sort of a moderate skin on top. But when its tail whips, it shows clearly three things: racism, hatred, prejudice and fear.

Hawaii might halt junior kindergarten | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Hawaii might halt junior kindergarten | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

The Kauai DHS Clients Coalition, in cooperation with many others across the State. These are cumulative actions, aimed at the poor, the working poor, and the children of the working poor and the poor. We will NOT STAND FOR THIS ANY LONGER!! Join us, as we pursue legal measures against the state. Mahalo.

Three ocean areas still closed on Maui due to wastewater spills | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Three ocean areas still closed on Maui due to wastewater spills | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Can anyone say "Environmental Disaster?"

Wind, wave, fire alerts in effect | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Wind, wave, fire alerts in effect | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

Take that all of you Republican HACKS who keep reporting that the earth must be cooling because there is snow in the winter in New York. What is wrong with you people? So here, read this, then crawl back into your uninformed and ignorant hole. Mahalo.

Reports show modest but steady economic recovery - Yahoo! News

Reports show modest but steady economic recovery - Yahoo! News

So take that, Republican nay sayers, and doomsdayers!! OUR PRESIDENTS POLICIES ARE WORKING!! Take your gun toting bible thumping KKK clan flag waving values and take itto where the Hawaiian sunshine can't get to it..

Oh by the way, if the economy is recovering, then Lingles slash and burn cuts will not make sense much longer. Using a bad economy as an excuse to slash and burn the feilds of the network of fragile social services that help the neediest keep their heads barely above water, are the worst type of political leaders, and should be held accountable for their actions. Remember, this is LINDA LINGLE and HER ADMINISTRATION that is doing this, not the Democrats in Hawaii. Remember that. That is FACTS people. Her appointed department heads. Not Democrats.

Sunday, February 28, 2010

Sneering Catty Fox Reporters Irresponsibly hint that the Country can fail if the people revolt

OK so first of all, OBAMA got most of the money back from these guys took the money back, and did the rtight thing. Lets see, WHO IS GIVING THESE GUYS BONUSES? BUSH< BUSH ONE< REAGAN> COME ON POEPLE>

But anyways, if these REPUBLICANS wanted to stop bailouts where in the HELL were they during both Bush presidencies?

By the way, this is a republican caused problem not a democratic one, but as usual FAUX would not know if now the truth if it bit them in the ass. They CANNOT tell the truth or be fair and balanced (HAHAHA YEAH RIGHT), becasue if they were, then the tea bagger racist drooling gun powder soaked brains of the redneck biblethimnper white sheet wearing uncle tom typed that they all cater to would have nothing to lkisten too.

Face it FOX NEWS IS THE ANTICHRIST!! Go ahead, listen to your false god. Listen to your charismatic leaders. Liosten to your fearmongering all powerful FOX news that you cannot turn away from. If they told you to murder your first born would you? WHo knows. Talk about BRAINWASHING. ITs a CULT not a tv news station.

YOU ALL NEED DETOX!! IRRESPONSIBLE!! They are just DCOPYCATTING what they see on LEGITIMATE news organizations and playing dress u[p.

Remember when you wanted to play grown up when you were a kid? With all of the miniature toys, and wearing clothes and pretending? THATS FOX NEWS>










WHEN in the HELL will we pull the plug on FOX? JUST LISTEN to how these poeple report to a brain damaged following of FOX lunatics. ANd these people are packing guns and pissed. COME ON people.

Listen to what they say. It is so easy to manipulate weak minds. The very same poeple who claim that they are being manipulated by a commuunist regime in the mainstream media and the public school system are doing the exact same darn thing

When you start to talk about a country can fail, yadda yadda yadda, and let that soak into the alchoholic gun powdered soaked brains of most of the hatemongering, fearm,ongering right wing exptremist gay hating lunatics that only watch FOX news and nothing else, and then show a totally WRONG chart showing comparising the BUSH 8 years against the Obama ONE YEAR, and say that the whole country across the board agreed with the Bush admin 90-80 PERFCENT!!!!????? which is of course a TOTAL lie, and then continue to harp that PRESIDENT OBAMA is causing the situation we are in, when the BUSH admin had an innaugeral parade where people threw rotten food at him, how can this "News" comedy show still not be pulled as a matter of national security?

I worry every single day this newcasting is allowed to continue that enraged tea party baggers packing heat will enter our communities start shooting people and try to take over the government!!

SO check out this lunatics, and call the station and tell thenm to stop compromising our national security by thinly veiling their reporting to get a gun, have a revolution, and take over the country

PS also, please. None of you know what the hell you are talking about. You are all spending a lot of money over there to build sets and stages that look like cnn, eeear suits, and play dress up. Leave the reporting and news stations to the people with actual experience, credibility and some sort of knowlege.

By the way. dont worry. None of you need to benefit from the stimulous package at FOX. so please, dont be jealous when other people have jobs, and your whole career lies on catering to drooling at the mouth gun toting airheads, racists, right wing chrustin nut jobs, losers and insane people.

AMEN

EVERYBODY GETS A GUN WOHOOO....NOT



OK look, people. I do not want everyone I know to be able to run around the streets with guns. Why? Well for one thing this aint the wild wild west. For another, I don't want guns in the wrong hands. FOr another, I dont want a hatfeilds and McCoy situation around here and in this country. For another, want to talk racial riots unrest and revolution? Giove everyone the right to bear a firearm, and the right to carry it in public, how will the police and anyone ever keep order?

Can you just see the tea baggers storming the white house and trying to overtake the country? I can. Thats why they want this. SO that they can get the right to carry UNCONCEALED weapoonry and threaten the government with overtaking it. Thata how PISSED they are that a black man runs the country.

Of course black people and all people, of race and color will NEED to arm themselves of course, to comabat all of the KKK who is going to be packing heat. Can you say chaos and disorder? Can you say Arizona shootout with Texas? How about neighboring states going to war with each other? How about neighboring CITIES going to war with each other?

What would stop armed Oahu citizens from coming to Kauai and taking us over by force?

Or all of the outer islands arming themselves and going to Oahu and taking over the government?

Do you see how this WONT work? Lets have some reason and sense for goodness sakes. ALets see the underlying reasons for all of this. ITs that there is a growing movement in this country very thinly disquised to overthrow a Black Mans administration in this country. To do that they need a revolution. To do that they need to be armed. SO if you cant see the writting on the wall, just watch this, and see the prejudiced, thinly disquised "OATH KEEPER" reporting.

Glenn Beck EPIC FAIL at being a College Professor



OK for someone that thinks the Prez is an elitest college progfessor type, and joins the Idiot CHorus harping on the fact that Republicans USED to be in favor of civil rights and equity, and MY assertion that parrties change their opinions a nd directions over time...ie reps were dems and dems were reps and progressives were repubs and now they are dems. OK so Beck tries to be a scholarly type of guy which cracks me up becasue he has no higher education than the 12 grade, well MAYBE.

SO, Beck, sit down, just becasue you got yourself a chalkboard, some chalk, and then wore a suit jacket with jeans and actually took your medication just before the show does not make you intelligent.

THe other interesting part were the strange, prejudiced answers from your cronies who also wanted to sound professiorial on cllegiate.

My guess? That anyone who wished they had gotten a higher education but refused to do so because they thought it would turn them into a commie marxist democrat wanted to play a game pretending they had an education. Its so much fun to play dress up.

I was particularly sickened with the opne gentleman talking about gun rights and tyrants, a clear reference to the Obama administrations perceived threat, and the right wing radical group of the "Oath keepers."

Watch this, have a good laff and just write these guys off as the fake pseudo intellectual uneducated arm chair quarterbacking nothing better to do with their time lunatics they actually are, and just dismiss them outright.

But then I like comedy shows like the next guy, and Becks pathetic attempts to sound intelligent.

However I must say that I beleive his presentation to be highly irresponsible due to its thinly veiled asasertion and instigation to have a revolution in the vountry and overturn the American government becasue a black man is leading the country right now. THese people are hatemongering, fearmongering, and dangerous to our countriesd national security.

But then thats just my opinion. As long as we view them as the comedy act they are we have nothing to fear.

The 1946 tsunami 

The 1946 tsunami 

Many of our Aunties and Uncles now deceased lost family members on the North Shore of Kauai, notably gramma nancy becasue she told me the story of it. Said a lot of poeple tried to hang on to Haena church, there used to be a church and a school in hawena where poeple that were from na pali and kalalau went to school. She told me everyone lost children that day. SO stop calling us chicken little and say we overreacted. That was the strongest known earthquake in a ll history. Yesterdays one was one of the strongest as well. It made sense to evacuate. Yes, I know the last one was in 1960, but our last hurricane was in 1992. SO should we stop evacuating and preparing? NO. So all of you recently arrived land locked mainlanders, really just need to be quiet. You love smack dab in the middle of nowhere now on small islands that are in tsunami paths and hurricane paths. get used to it. stop whining when roads are closed and your little events are cancelled. This is for the protection of our people. If you dont like it move back to the mainlandf

Tsunami warning sets off panic

Tsunami warning sets off panic
http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/article_ed9baec4-23db-11df-88d7-001cc4c03286.html

Saturday, February 27, 2010

Hawaii

Hawaii

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Discussion : DHS workers brace for another round of layoffs

Discussion : DHS workers brace for another round of layoffs

Hawaii Tsunami Warning Canceled - Honolulu Weather News Story - KITV Honolulu

Hawaii Tsunami Warning Canceled - Honolulu Weather News Story - KITV Honolulu

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This was the crackdown against the people during the Republican National convention. Isnt it weird that now it is the REPUBLICANS that are complaining about this stuff against the Democrats? The world is a funny place, aint it? This video is three ho9urs long. but it is really worth watching.

here come the oathkeepers.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

the defenders of the REPUBLIC.

These lunatics who are supposedly sane, professional mena and women are going to march on Washington DC in September, and en masse commit the federal crime of intending to commit the act of treason against the United States en masse by some wierd promise to lay down their arms and not listen to the first black president of the united states if he gives them a certain set of orders. These people claim to be firefighters, police and from all ranges of the military navy marines whatever.

Frankly I think they should all be discharged on grounds of mental incompetency.

This is what regimes do in third world countries.

could you imagine Canadas army refusing to listen to the premier if he told them to comntrol a gun toting population, becasue they didnt like the fact that Canada has universal health care?

Yep. Its all about thye tea baggers, folks. Plus they are afraid a POTUS is about to start the new world order.

Se lets check out this webby sitey thingy shall we? ok thhn, u betcha.



heres the Oathkeepers Oath. Um, ok. lets see if Treason is against the law in the United States and what would constitute treason in the US.
Since these guys have a list of unlawful acts a President might ask them say to disarm a whole group of vigilanties with guns screaming through the streets of ALabama looking for African Americans to hang. If the president said "Hey the situation is dire in there, go in there, make arrests, disarm the group, ect., these guys would not do that. If a state dicided to just go nuts and decide its free day to shoot all mexican americans, get your guns and lets go, these guys are not going to stop them. Why? Becasue opne of their oaths is we will not disarm the American people, and another one is we will not do a lot of things. here is the list c and pd from the site:

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY

Click here to read full length version.

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.


This is very interesting. I am finding it hard to really understand what these guys are about. From what I can gather, this came about agfter Katrina. So the Bush administration, that did such a terrible job of caring for the populace, had from what I can gather essentially barricaded people inside new orleans and wouldnt let anybody out. Well, that was Bush. Now we have Obama. For one thing he would never do that. But are there other incidences where the laying down of weapons may spell disaster for unarmed american citizens against roving bands of armed american citizens or mob mentalities?

Such things occurred during the civil rights movement. The feds stepped in into several states where mobs were lynching black poeple, and the police and others were abusing unarmed American citizens, and allowing armed american citizens to threaten, harass, beat and kill them while they essentially "laid down their arms", becasue they stated they would not put down the mobs.

So this could be a good thing in some ways, and a very bad thing in others. The interpretation is too broad.

While I am happy that the oath keepers will protect the poeple from being put into concentration campos and detention centers, and protect us from military tribunals, I am a bit worried about the part where they will not opbey orders for a state of emergency or go into a state where all hell has broken loose and restore order. That really worries me. so lets find out some more, and see what this is really all about.

Now in my opinion Blackwater are the bad bad guys. I would trust a us military guy over a blackwater guy anyday. But I need a hell of a lot more clarification top understand what these rules are, becasue it sounds to me like they arent going to protect people. I mean I would want them out there doing whatever, becasue if they dont maybe these blackwater guys will come in and doi the things they refuse to do and then we are all really screwed. Its confusing. SO I am still searching on the website for some kind of clear understanding. lets see what I can find. Heres something:

About OathKeepers

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters who will fulfill the oath we swore to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God.

Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and we will not obey unconstitutional (and thus illegal) and immoral orders, such as orders to disarm the American people or to place them under martial law and deprive them of their ancient right to jury trial.

We Oath Keepers have drawn a line in the sand. We will not “just follow orders.”

Our motto is “Not on our watch!”

If you, the American people, are forced to once again fight for your liberty in another American Revolution, you will not be alone. We will stand with you.

There is at this time a debate within the ranks of the military regarding their oath. Some mistakenly believe they must follow any order the President issues. But you can rest assured that many others in the military do understand that their loyalty is to the Constitution, and understand what that means.

The mission of Oath Keepers is to vastly increase their numbers. We are in a battle for the hearts and minds of our own troops. To win that battle, Oath Keepers will use written and video testimony of active duty military, veterans (especially combat vets), and peace officers to reach, teach, and inspire our brothers in arms in the military and police to fulfill their oaths and stand as guardians of the Republic.

If you are currently in the military, are a veteran, or are a peace officer, please submit your written and/or video testimony on your oath, so you can help us win that battle for hearts and minds. Your submission may be anonymous.

Guardians of the Republic, fulfill your oath. Join us.

(read a longer description here)
What We Are Not

We are Not advocating or promoting the overthrow of any government whether local, state or national. We want our governments to return to the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the
Constitution defined and instituted.

We are Not advocating or promoting violence towards any organization, group or person. We are determined to Keep our Oath to support and defend the Constitution.

We are not advocating or promoting the removal of any person from his or her elected office. We want all elected persons to live up to their Oath to “support and defend the Constitution” as it is written or to leave of their own volition.

We are not advocating or promoting that anyone in the Judicial Branch be removed or replaced. We want the Justices in the Judicial Branch to follow the Constitution as written without interpretation.

We are not advocating or promoting any particular form of government other than the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution defined and instituted.

We are not advocating or promoting the rewriting of the Constitution nor are we asking for an Amendment thereto. We are insisting on the Constitution being Enforced as it is written.

We are Not advocating or promoting any act or acts of aggression against any organization or person for any
reason including, but not limited to; race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, gender or sexual orientation.

We hope for a return to a Constitutional Republic free from fear and hatred. We hate only tyranny.

We are Oath Sworn Americans who want the Constitution returned to its legal and rightful place, intact, as the ultimate Law of the Land.
About OathKeeper Founder Stewart Rhodes


Stewart is the founder and Director of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump.

He is a former firearms instructor and former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff.

Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

Stewart currently writes the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine, and has written for The Warrior, the journal of Gerry Spence’s Trial Lawyer’s College; for www.moreliberty.org; and for JPFO.

Stewart has appeared on many radio shows including G. Gordon Liddy, Alex Jones, The Power Hour, Devvy Kidd, Spy Chips author Katherine Albrecht, and many more.

Stewart was invited to speak at Stanford University on unlawful enemy combatant status, and teaches classes on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

OK somehow? I am STILL NOT CONVINCED. It still sounds a bit spooky to me. But I will delve deeper into it. I mean if they march on washington, demand president obama to follow the constitution with some sort of ammendment that they want to it and he tells them no, and they start storming the whitehouse and start shooting poeple im gonna get real freakedout. I mean I cant really tell what they really are about.

But maybe its just like the tea bagger movement. except with guns. But wait no, they are laying DOWN their guns. Ok so they wont be shooting anybody. But will they stop other poeple fgrom shooting? I think so. But I cant tell. it just really isnt clear.

Did the Oath Keepers exist in the Bush administration? I wonder if they existed in the Reagan Administration? Did they march in Washington and threaten to lay doen their arms if given an unlawful order during ANY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION? Nope, I dont think so.

So now I am kinda wondering...hmmmmmmmmm. President Obama is a man of color....hmmmmmmm...hes a Democrat.....hmmmmmmmm..........

I will give them all the benefit of the doubt for now. I gotta read up more on this though. Now when I see someone I am gonna ask them if they are Oath keepers or not. If I meet one that is I am going to find out just what this is all about. I urge you to do the same thing.

Palin tries to sound really really smart talking about the Presidents Health Care summit EPIC FAIL



Sarah Palin (AKA Scarah Failin), scarin up a whole new pot of racists, bigots and nay sayers tries to sound yet again like she knows what she is talking about. DId Sarah Pailin come up with any iodeas for healthcare? No.

Is she a glorified armchair quarterback? Yes. Is her carreer getting close to her doing the sports and weather yet? yes. Very close. Is the Presidency close for her? Yes. As close as Aunty Em and home. ALl she needs is the ruby slippers and three clicks of her heels.

Friday, February 26, 2010

LILLIAN KOHLER LAWSUIT

http://www.justice.gov/crt/split/documents/hawaii_compt_2-7-06.pdf

TONIGHTS MEETING REGARDING DHS OFFICE CLOSURES WAS CRAZY NUTS

Ok, I am so wound up I can't sleep. Not to mention my back is in pain because I am not supposed to do anything. But I joined the rest of the handicapped in the front row, with the blind, deaf, and other disabilities. They were awesome. They conducted themselves a lot better then I did myself. After telling everyone to have Sunday manners, I went a little bonkers towards the end.

I kept asking the two people who came to tell us what we already know why the clients cannot also sit at the negotiation table with the Governor and the Union. Apparently we dont count. Our opinion doesnt count. Everyone else knows whats best for us. I was never so enraged in all my life.

THey didn't care. Plus they just straight out lied to everyone. What they are talking about is privatizing services, kicking out all of the state employees putting in unqualified individuals to be essentially paperpushers, and thats it.

Apparently our social workers are just a bit too nicve to us and caring. we cant have THAT in the Lingle administration. NO WAY.

Well, rather then sit down and be quiet I got a little mouthy. I was seeing totally red by the end of that meeting. We need to sue and sue HARD. Howe does 250 million dollars sound? Nice round figure? Yep it sure is. How about calling in the state department to check things out, maybe a Federal lawsuit, or something huh?

DO THE CLIENTS HAVE ANYONES ATTENTION YET? Nope. They were completely unfazed by this and just couldnt care less.

I was surprised when Jimmy Tokioka showed up and said absolutely no one fwas for this in the legislature.

But as Jimmy darn well knows, this whole thing is being passed through WITHOUT Legislative review because it is allowed by law to change the rules without going through the leg. Pretty smart huh? But think thats all? Its not, sadly.

Now, another agency the state housing agency is proposing similar measures meant to streamline but its really not about streamlining its about getting rid of the dead weight....the clients.

Seems as if the state wants a better class oif renter in their public housing units. So they are shakin things up to make that happen. Just like the DHS wants less people on the rolls so they come in with no plan, no numbers, no nothing. Just "We gonna shut everything down". Thats it.

Housing has plans for credit checks, a preference for working people and looking for better tenants, like ones that can afford the market rate. Then they can go on to home ownership. While the elderly, disabled and thoxse on the street are to move DOWN the priority list. Sounds cozy doesn't it/ Way to go to see your community and the people of this state.

Well, guess what? WE THE CLIENTS, as in We The People, have awoken out of our slumber. WE are fully ready for an attorney to come along and help us with a nice , fat, juicy class action lawsuit. One that will name every client in the state, and give each of us a million bucks a pop so that we dont need housing or welfare anymore. Its the least the state can do. Don't you think?

If you dont like this idea, call the Governors office and your rep and tell them to ixnay on the anplay. (NIX DA PLAN). They shut up then we shut up simple. Pull the plug on the WAR AGAINST THE POOR.

Sheesh enough already.

CBS Behind Anti-Choice Billboards in Atlanta | RHRealityCheck.org

CBS Behind Anti-Choice Billboards in Atlanta | RHRealityCheck.org

Thursday, February 25, 2010

The Next Anti-Choice Target: Miscarriage - Utah miscarriage bill - Jezebel

The Next Anti-Choice Target: Miscarriage - Utah miscarriage bill - Jezebel

Holy crap I thought this was a joke or a typo I couldn't be more wrong.

They will now, in the state of utah put a woman up on MURDER CHARGES if she has a MISCARRIAGE!!!what are they INSANE!!!!! Is this the 15th century???? Is thias WICHBURNING and PITCHFORKS????? Do we know the earth is not flat, and the sky nis blue in SCREWED UP UTAH?????????

Measure on illegal abortions heads to governor
Health » Opponents fear 'reckless' clause could haunt domestic violence victims who stay with their abusers.

By Brandon Loomis

The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 02/18/2010 06:20:08 PM MST

The Utah Senate has joined the House in allowing homicide charges against expectant mothers who arrange illegal abortions.

The bill responds to a case in which a Vernal woman allegedly paid a man $150 to beat her and cause miscarriage but could not be charged. The Senate on Thursday approved HB12 on a vote of 24-4, criminalizing a woman's "intentional, knowing, or reckless act" leading to a pregnancy's illegal termination. It specifies that a woman cannot be prosecuted for arranging a legal abortion.

The measure now goes to Gov. Gary Herbert for final action.

Some Senate Democrats attempted a last-minute amendment to remove the word "reckless" from the list of criminal acts leading to miscarriage. They argued that criminalizing reckless acts leaves open the possibility of prosecutions against domestic violence victims who return to their abusers only to be beaten and lose the child.

"It's part of the cycle of domestic violence," said Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake City.

"I hope none of you ever have to face that situation," she said after realizing the majority would pass the bill as is, "or have a daughter facing that situation, or a granddaughter."

But the bill's sponsor, Sen. Margaret Dayton, R-Orem, said the bill doesn't target victims at all -- only those who arrange to terminate their pregnancies illegally.

"I know it's well-intentioned," Dayton said of the attempt to lift "reckless acts" from the bill,
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"but I don't think we want to go down the road of carefully defining the behavior of a woman."

Robles and Sen. Ben McAdams said they had spoken to the bill's original sponsor, Rep. Carl Wimmer, R-Herriman, just before the debate and believed he would support the change on behalf of domestic violence victims. Dayton, though, said Wimmer sent her a text message during the debate asking her to press on.

Wimmer later said he had been open to the Democrats' suggestion, but it had come too late.

"I wasn't about to hold the bill up," he said.

HOLE EEEEEEEE HELLHOLES BATMAN!! BUT WAIT THERES MORE!!

Utah Bill Criminalizes Miscarriage

By Rachel Larris, RH Reality Check

February 20, 2010 - 9:00am
Published under: Access to Abortion | fetal homicide | Utah
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A bill passed by the Utah House and Senate this week and waiting for the governor's signature, will make it a crime for a woman to have a miscarriage, and make induced abortion a crime in some instances.

According Lynn M. Paltrow, executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, what makes Utah's proposed law unique is that it is specifically designed to be punitive toward pregnant women, not those who might assist or cause an illegal abortion or unintended miscarriage.

The bill passed by legislators amends Utah's criminal statute to allow the state to charge a woman with criminal homicide for inducing a miscarriage or obtaining an illegal abortion. The basis for the law was a recent case in which a 17-year-old girl, who was seven months pregnant, paid a man $150 to beat her in an attempt to cause a miscarriage. Although the girl gave birth to a baby later given up for adoption, she was initially charged with attempted murder. However the charges were dropped because, at the time, under Utah state law a woman could not be prosecuted for attempting to arrange an abortion, lawful or unlawful.

The bill passed by the Utah legislature would change that. While the bill does not affect legally obtained abortions, it criminalizes any actions taken by women to induce a miscarriage or abortion outside of a doctor's care, with penalties including up to life in prison.

"What is really radical and different about this statute is that all of the other states' feticide laws are directed to third party attackers," Paltrow explained. "[Other states' feticide laws] were passed in response to a pregnant woman who has been beaten up by a husband or boyfriend. Utah's law is directed to the woman herself and that's what makes it different and dangerous."

In addition to criminalizing an intentional attempt to induce a miscarriage or abortion, the bill also creates a standard that could make women legally responsible for miscarriages caused by "reckless" behavior.

Using the legal standard of "reckless behavior" all a district attorney needs to show is that a woman behaved in a manner that is thought to cause miscarriage, even if she didn't intend to lose the pregnancy. Drink too much alcohol and have a miscarriage? Under the new law such actions could be cause for prosecution.

"This creates a law that makes any pregnant woman who has a miscarriage potentially criminally liable for murder," says Missy Bird, executive director of Planned Parenthood Action Fund of Utah. Bird says there are no exemptions in the bill for victims of domestic violence or for those who are substance abusers. The standard is so broad, Bird says, "there nothing in the bill to exempt a woman for not wearing her seatbelt who got into a car accident."

Such a standard could even make falling down stairs a prosecutable event, such as the recent case in Iowa where a pregnant woman who fell down the stairs at her home was arrested under the suspicion she was trying to terminate her pregnancy.

"This statute and the standards chosen leave a large number of pregnant women vulnerable to arrest even though they have no intention of ending a pregnancy," Paltrow said. "Whether or not the legislature intended this bill to become a tool for policing and punishing all pregnant women, if enacted this law would permit prosecution of a pregnant woman who stayed with her abusive husband because she was unable to leave. Not leaving would, under the 'reckless' standard, constitute conduct that consciously disregarded a substantial risk," Paltrow explained.

While many states have fetal homicide laws most apply only in the third trimester. Utah's bill would apply throughout the entirety of a woman's pregnancy. Even first trimester miscarriages could become the basis for a murder trial.

Bird said she is also concerned that the law will drive pregnant women with substance abuse problems "underground;" afraid to seek treatment lest they have a miscarriage and be charged for murder. She said it directly reverses the attempts made, though a bill passed in 2008, to encourage pregnant women to seek treatment for addiction.

Paltrow added that the commonly thought belief that pregnant women who use drugs are engaging in behavior that is likely to cause a stillbirth or a miscarriage is wrong.

"Science now makes clear that drug use by pregnant women does not create unique risks for pregnant women, although it is likely that among those targeted for prosecutions by this statute will be women who go to term under drug usage," she said.

The bill does exempt from prosecution fetal deaths due to failure to follow medical advice, accept treatment or refuse a cesarean section. Bird said this exemption was likely because of a 2004 case where a woman who was pregnant with twins was later charged with criminal homicide after one of the babies was stillborn, which the state deemed due to her refusal to have a cesarean section.

Planned Parenthood and the ACLU of Utah worked together to "amend the hell out of the bill," Bird said. One of their few accomplishments was at least dropping the legal standard of "negligence" from the bill, a much lower standard than "recklessness."

Bird was shaken with emotion after the Senate vote. "I broke down and cried," she admitted. "I normally never let these kind of [legislative] battles get to me."

"What really sucks is that we had three supposed allies in the Senate, three [Democratic] women, who voted for the bill," Bird said, adding she didn't yet know why the three senators switched votes.

Marina Lowe is legislative and policy counsel for the ACLU of Utah. She worked in tandem with Bird on trying to derail or at least mitigate the worst aspects of the bill. Lowe says at this point she doesn't know if there is a potential constitutional challenge to the law once it is signed by the governor.

But she points to cases like the one in Iowa as exactly the kind of situation that might arise once this law is put into place.

Paltrow says this bill puts a lie to the idea that the pro-life movement cares about women.

"For all these years the anti-choice movement has said ‘we want to outlaw abortion, not put women in jail, but what this law says is ‘no, we really want to put women in jail."

BELEIVE IT OR NOT< IT GETS EVEN SICKER PEOPLE


Pregnant? Don't Fall Down the Stairs

By Amie Newman, Managing Editor

February 15, 2010 - 5:07pm
Published under: Maternal Health | Women’s Rights | adoption | Childbirth | feticide | pregnancy | Unborn Victims of Violence | violence against women
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This article contains a correction made at 7:58 a.m. Tuesday, February 17th, 2010 to clarify the law applied to the arrest of Christine Taylor. An earlier version did not specify the statute applied in this case.

When anti-choice advocates dream up and manage to pass bills in the name of being "pro-life," make no mistake - there is no question they know that these laws have the potential to ruin lives.

In the case of Christine Taylor, an Iowa mother of two girls and pregnant with her third child, a feticide law enacted in that state because of anti-choice efforts has wreaked havoc on her life.

It all started last month, according to Change.org:

Last month, after an upsetting phone conversation with her estranged husband, Ms. Taylor became light-headed and fell down a flight of stairs in her home. Paramedics rushed to the scene and ultimately declared her healthy. However, since she was pregnant with her third child at the time, Taylor thought it would be best to be seen at the local ER to make sure her fetus was unharmed.

After Taylor was treated by a nurse at the private hospital and deemed fine, she confided to the nurse that she was upset and scared and wasn't sure she wanted to continue the pregnancy. Her husband recently left her after she told him she was pregnant with their third child:

"I never said I didn't want my baby, but I admitted that I had been considering adoption or abortion," she said. "I admit that I said I wasn't sure I wanted to continue the pregnancy. My husband sends me money, but money doesn't make a parent. I don't have anybody else to turn to."

Although Taylor was in the first part of her second trimester, the nurse noted on her chart that she was in the first week of her third trimester - the time when, under Iowa's fetal homicide law, a violent act perpetrated against a pregnant woman could be considered criminal. The nurse called over the doctor who then called the police - which is when Christine Taylor found herself arrested and sent to jail for admitting uncertainty about her pregnancy and fear about raising three children on her own.

Iowa is one of 37 states with a feticide law on the books, a number that has increased in recent years "because of a growing movement by some conservatives to target providers of late abortion, such as Dr. George Tiller, and to protect "unborn victims of violence,"" a back-door effort to create a status of "personhood" for the fetus separate from its mother before it is viable.

One section of Iowa's law criminalizes any act by any person who attempts to intentionally terminate a pregnancy "without the knowledge and voluntary consent of the pregnant person" at any stage of pregnancy.

Another makes it a felony to intentionally terminate a pregnancy "with the knowledge and voluntary consent of the pregnant person after the end of the second trimester," unless a pregnancy is terminated for the reasons of the life or health of the mother. In short...a willing effort to terminate a pregnancy. This is the section of the law under which Christine Taylor was charged.

According to the Des Moines Register, "Bringing a charge of attempted feticide against Taylor would have treaded new legal territory in Iowa, legal experts said."

"I've never seen those facts brought to me in 20 years of prosecuting," said Corwin Ritchie, coordinator of the Iowa County Attorneys Association.

Robert Rigg, who teaches at the Drake University Law School, said the unusual case raises important questions even though Taylor is not being prosecuted. Among them: "How in the heck did the police get a statement made by a patient to a medical person during the course of treatment?" he asked.
Under federal law, health care providers can release limited information to law enforcement, but not if it was given in the course of that person's "treatment related to the propensity to commit this type of violent act." Disclosure of some information could be a violation of federal rules protecting personal medical information, Rigg said.

Though some fetal homicide laws are relics from centuries ago (Washington state's 1895 law defines fetal homicide as intentionally causing the death of a "quick child," which is an ancient term for when a pregnant woman can feel the fetus inside her), most derive from our federal "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" (UVVA), which allows for the perpetrator of a violent crime against a pregnant women to be charged for two crimes - one against the woman and one against her fetus. And while a violent crime perpetrated against a pregnant woman resulting in both her death and the death of her unborn baby during a wanted pregnancy is a heinous crime, the passage of the UVVA law and the resulting state fetal homicide laws are more about blocking access to abortion and keeping women scared and "in line." Re-published on Alternet.org, Jeanne Flavin writes in her book Our Bodies, Our Crimes: The Policing of Women's Reproduction in America:



The Unborn Victims of Violence Act explicitly states that nothing in the act "shall be construed to permit the prosecution ... of any woman with respect to her unborn child." But state statutes have used nearly identical language (often, as noted, only after hard-fought battles to get the language included in the first place) and then have gone on to prosecute pregnant women for their drug use in what has been called a "legislative bait and switch." Fetal protection laws not only represent a backdoor to abolishing abortion but also they leave open the possibility that the laws used to prosecute those who assault pregnant women may be directed against pregnant women themselves. In Missouri, for example, the state argued that the exception articulated in their fetus-centered homicide statute applied only to a woman who indirectly harmed her unborn child, not to a woman whose drug use was claimed to have directly endangered the child.

So while these laws were enacted because of intense advocacy by anti-choice forces under the guise of "protecting pregnant women and their unborn babies," they do have the power to be - and have been - wielded like weapons against pregnant women like Christine Taylor.

Quoted in the Des Moines Register, Lynn Paltrow executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW) said of the incident:

"You want women to be able to talk to their doctors without being accused as a baby killer"...Transforming some mothers' obviously difficult and painful circumstances into a crime, she said, "would make every pregnant woman in this country vulnerable to criminal prosecution."

The charges against Taylor were dropped ultimately but not because this is a draconian, hateful, anti-woman, anti-family piece of legislation that harms women and families. They were dropped because Taylor's doctor confirmed that she was in her second trimester at the time of her fall, not the "criminal" third trimester.

And, as Change.org notes, there is another shocking element to this case - the question of patient confidentiality. The doctor and nurse involved in reporting this to the police seem to be in serious breach of the law:

Christine Taylor came to them emotionally vulnerable in order to seek help for her unborn child. She thought she was in a safe place talking to professionals in whom she could confide. Oops, her bad. As Robert Rigg, professor at the Drake University Law School, said, "How in the heck did the police get a statement made by a patient to a medical person during the course of treatment?"

This is not about "protecting the life of the unborn." Protecting the life of the unborn for women who want to be pregnant means ensuring access to high quality prenatal care. It means ensuring pay equity-- that women are paid on par with their male counterparts - so they are able to support a family. It means ensuring paid family leave and fair breastfeeding policies. It means making sure that pregnant women are safe from perpetators of violence - most often their boyfriends or husbands.

This is about innocent lives being trampled upon though. This is about the lives of the women and children who are here now: living, breathing, laughing, struggling, nurturing, being. It's about making sure families like Christine Taylor and her two children have the means to live safely, free to make the best decisions they can about their health and lives, without fear of prosecution or retribution from anti-choice advocates aiming to criminalize pregnant women's choices.

What kind of messages are we sending to pregnant women? Either ask for or seek help and risk being persecuted, maybe even jailed, for reaching out or remain fearful and do not seek out medical attention or services. These aren't choices at all. These are dangerous scenarios that risk both mothers' and babies' health and lives.

Christine Taylor is not "collateral damage" in the war against women, perpetrated by anti-choice advocates. She is an exact target

This group associated with the murderes of a child and her father, AMerican citizens of Hispanic decent



Is this what you tea baggers and patriots are all about? These three individuals are murderers who murdered a child and her father, shot them in front of the mother. THese are aniumals and oigs of the lowest form of life.

This group speaking is associated with them. They are all inside the tea bagger party moven]ment.

When you here the cry lower taxes, smaller government, no immigration we hate Obama, these are the people who are swilling this rhetoric. When you participate in this as a person of color, you are guilty of their sins by association.

LEAVE THE TEA BAGGER AND PATRIOT MOVEMENT NOW. Listen to the TRUE REASONS behind the movement. It is NOT ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

It is about WHit SUpremacy, Seccessionist theory, hate and fear mongering RACIAL HATRED AND PREJUDICE

DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN TEA BAGGER PROTESTS OR PATRIOT PROTESTS>

Hawaii excise tax breaks may be cut to help ease budget deficit | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

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Read this list. You will see tax raises for those with debilitating diseases, and the poor, and those who serve them.

STOP THE WAR AGAINST THE POOR

HEY LINGLE YOU TAKE A PAY BREAK ONE DOLLAR UNTIL THE END OF HER TERM..THATS ALL WE WANT TO PAY YOU

Michelle Bachman at CPAC..a Palin/Backman ticket. A real freak show, huh? Just watch this embarassment to intelligent thinking women everywhere

Glen Beck Idiot Extraordinaire "speaks" at the C-Pac Idiot Circus



I am a Progressive Democrat well whats the difference between a communist and a Democrat?

How about: I am a Republican. Well, racist, whats the difference?

Answer:

Hawaii school board finds another $37.7M to cut from budget | honoluluadvertiser.com | The Honolulu Advertiser

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LAY OFF LINGLE!!

THE PRESIDENTS LASt PITCH FOR HEALTH CARE WATCH ONLINE TOMORROW

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geneology of PRINCE Quentin Kawananakoa

the house of kauai rules over oahu people get that straight already

Quentin Kawānanakoa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quentin Kawānanakoa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is a good starting point for those of you who do not know that there is an acknowleged heir to the Hawaiian Monarchy.